Pokémon X&Y post-launch discussion thread - AKA Jinx is Upset

[drotato]

Getting final preparation for the Elite 4 done.

My Party:

Greninja, Level 100, Splash Plate (thinking about Amulet Coin)
Gardevoir, Level 91, Mind Plate
Lucario, Level 100, Fist Plate (thinking about Lucarionite)
Noivern, Level 88, Silk Scarf (WHY is there no Normal Plate?! I love Plates. )
Gengar, Level 55, Lucky Egg (going to switch to Spooky Plate or Gengarite at Level 100)
Xerneas, Level 100, Pixie Plate

Just have to finalize my outfit for the Hall of Fame save, and think about whether it's worth getting my entire party up to 100, just for the sake of consistency (OCD kicking in again). Putting the Battle Chateau right next to the Day Care is great for leveling up while breeding.



Also, thinking about making a post about breeding in general, and how to best train a good team member, what to look for in EV spreads, and how to handle move sets and Egg Moves. If anyone is interested, it might help guide you to getting the most out of your Pokémon, rather than just copy/pasting from Smogon or Serebii, so if you think it's a good idea, let me know.

AHHH SUCH A GOOD PARTY. PLEASE TELL ME WHERE TO FIND THE PIXIE PLATE. I looked everywhere in my guide and I dunno if it's in there. ; ~;

[Tasura]

The Pixie Plate is in the Pokemon Village.

[Skyblade]

The Pixie Plate is in the Pokemon Village.

Yep. You need to go to the far west side, then Surf across the water.

[Del Murder]

Got a Charmander through WT last night! I felt bad because I gave them a lousy Stunfisk. I already have a Charmander so I put it up on the GTS to try to get a Bulbasaur.

[Agent Proto]

Lately, I've been breeding Claunchers hoping for a Shiny. So far, I've hatched over 50 eggs and have no shiny. I've been sending away my Claunchers via WT, and I've had some nice trades including a Pikachu with Pokerus!

[drotato]

The Pixie Plate is in the Pokemon Village.

The Pixie Plate is in the Pokemon Village.

Yep. You need to go to the far west side, then Surf across the water.

Thank you guys, omg. This is so useful. xD

[Skyblade]

I beat the Elite Four and did my Game Sync, so you all should be able to see my third Pokémon (hopefully!). Although when I went to the Friend Safari, I didn't seem to be able to visit my own, just all my friends. And, checking my Normal Safari Friends, I have access to Eevee, Ditto, Kecleon, Chansey, Aipom, Audino, Dunsparce, Loudred, Lillipup, Minccinno, and Smeargle, everyone possible from a Normal except Teddiursa, which is supposedly in mine. Do I need to do the one Battle Maison win needed to unlock the postgame story first? And, if so, is that going to keep you guys from seeing my third Pokémon until I do (which will be probably late tonight, due to work schedule)?

Bug and Fire seem to be the rare ones among the Friend Codes I have acquired, and I am hoping I'll have a Larvesta somewhere, but I haven't checked.


Also, found out something awesome in one of the two Bug Safaris I have: If you have a friend with Vivillon in a different region, their Friend Safari Vivillon is of their regional colors. So it is completely possible to be the OT of Vivillons with patterns besides your own, as long as you get enough Friends with Vivillon in their Safari (admittedly, not easy, but still cool)!

I have a ton of Friends, and a lot from my trips to the recent Smogon boards, so as I find out all of what I have access to, I'll be sure to share. Let me know what you all need for catching/breeding.

[Endless]

I beat the Elite Four and did my Game Sync, so you all should be able to see my third Pokémon (hopefully!).

Actually, we need to be online at the same time as you for that, it appears syncing doesn't help (which is totally dumb).

Although when I went to the Friend Safari, I didn't seem to be able to visit my own, just all my friends. And, checking my Normal Safari Friends, I have access to Eevee, Ditto, Kecleon, Chansey, Aipom, Audino, Dunsparce, Loudred, Lillipup, Minccinno, and Smeargle, everyone possible from a Normal except Teddiursa, which is supposedly in mine.

As the name implies, it's a friend zone, not own zone safari
People can get dittos off of me, and I can't, boohoo.

Do I need to do the one Battle Maison win needed to unlock the postgame story first? And, if so, is that going to keep you guys from seeing my third Pokémon until I do (which will be probably late tonight, due to work schedule)?

See above, it's about being online at the same time. The battle mansion is fast if you don't care about getting a lot of wins right off, just get your win then go battle your rival, and now you can get the upgraded bracelet (and stone searching "fun"), then the new quest story in Lumiose, which, by the way, totally overshadows the main story imho.

Bug and Fire seem to be the rare ones among the Friend Codes I have acquired, and I am hoping I'll have a Larvesta somewhere, but I haven't checked.

I have a friend or two with fire, but I don't rememebr on top of my head what they have, and I don't have my 3ds with me at the moment.
If you have a friend who has steel, check and see if he has magnemite/magneton/bronzong/metang and farm them for the item they hold, you'll be able to get good stuff from the gts (or share them with us and we will xD).

Also, found out something awesome in one of the two Bug Safaris I have: If you have a friend with Vivillon in a different region, their Friend Safari Vivillon is of their regional colors. So it is completely possible to be the OT of Vivillons with patterns besides your own, as long as you get enough Friends with Vivillon in their Safari (admittedly, not easy, but still cool)!

I have a ton of Friends, and a lot from my trips to the recent Smogon boards, so as I find out all of what I have access to, I'll be sure to share. Let me know what you all need for catching/breeding.

Nice about the Vivillons. As I said, farming the 4 steel pokemons I listed is worth it because the item they can hold (5% chance) is used to evolve Scyther into Scizor and short of catching these 4 pokemons, you only get one per game, and a lot of people want to trade their whatever for a Scizor.

[Jinx]

I'm not trying to be sassy, but I don't understand why everyone is freaking out about getting a Ditto. Just go to the Pokemon Village. They're everywhere!

[Agent Proto]

Pokemon from the FZS are guaranteed to have several perfect IVs in their stats. This is good for breeders.

[Skyblade]

So if you have no friends, you can't use FSZ at all? Even the game gives an impression that you can, with two NPCs specifically mentioning their own FSZ Pokemon.

Also, I thought GameSync would update it, as long as you were both online together at some point, so that they showed up in your in-game Friend list. I guess I'm wrong though. I will try to be online as much as possible for the next few nights.

Also, does anyone know what happens to the FSZ if you put your game in a different 3DS?

[Endless]

So if you have no friends, you can't use FSZ at all? Even the game gives an impression that you can, with two NPCs specifically mentioning their own FSZ Pokemon.

Thee might be a FSZ ersatz for people with no friends, but passerbys get upgraded to acquaintances if you trade with them, and there is a chance when battling/trading with an acquaintance that the game will offer you to add them to your friends.

Also, I thought GameSync would update it, as long as you were both online together at some point, so that they showed up in your in-game Friend list. I guess I'm wrong though. I will try to be online as much as possible for the next few nights.

Also, does anyone know what happens to the FSZ if you put your game in a different 3DS?

FSZ content is based off your friends' 3ds code. You using another 3DS doesn't change your friends' codes, so FSZs will stay unchanged. That's why we have an eoff spreadsheet, the three pokemons people will find in mine won't change, ever, as long as they have the friend code I have now.

Also, an app recently appeared that lets one peek at stats of pokemons being traded (wt/gts/personal) even in egg form, and also track shiny numbers (both of a pokemon/egg and trainer), which can help breed shinies : if the egg's shiny value is the same as the trainer who hatches it, it's a shiny/special color. The app requires you to have two network connections, one of which must be wireless and unused, and a wifi card that's compatible (and at the moment, win 7/8, and the .net framework). Some of us were thinking of adding a trainer shiny value to the spreadsheet (or you can use the giant reddit one mentioned in the kotaku article), and with a trade, we can help you find yours and check eggs.

[Skyblade]

Also, I thought GameSync would update it, as long as you were both online together at some point, so that they showed up in your in-game Friend list. I guess I'm wrong though. I will try to be online as much as possible for the next few nights.

Also, does anyone know what happens to the FSZ if you put your game in a different 3DS?

FSZ content is based off your friends' 3ds code. You using another 3DS doesn't change your friends' codes, so FSZs will stay unchanged. That's why we have an eoff spreadsheet, the three pokemons people will find in mine won't change, ever, as long as they have the friend code I have now.

To my knowledge, the system is based off of the 3DS Friends List, not the game's own list. My 3DS has everyone on EoFF Friended. If I transfer my game to a different 3DS, that 3DS has a different Friends List. Does my in-game FSZ list change to reflect the new Friends List of the new system?

Also, an app recently appeared that lets one peek at stats of pokemons being traded (wt/gts/personal) even in egg form, and also track shiny numbers (both of a pokemon/egg and trainer), which can help breed shinies : if the egg's shiny value is the same as the trainer who hatches it, it's a shiny/special color. The app requires you to have two network connections, one of which must be wireless and unused, and a wifi card that's compatible (and at the moment, win 7/8, and the .net framework). Some of us were thinking of adding a trainer shiny value to the spreadsheet (or you can use the giant reddit one mentioned in the kotaku article), and with a trade, we can help you find yours and check eggs.

I saw that app as well, it's big on Smogon for similar reasons, but I don't know that I can use it, as my 3DS connects through my wireless router, set up to network our family's machines, rather than through my PC itself (my PC has both a wired and a wireless connection, so I could turn off the wireless, but I don't know that it would help).

I would be willing to trade to get mine, just so that I know, but without a way to figure out what my eggs are, I don't know how much good it does.

[Endless]

To my knowledge, the system is based off of the 3DS Friends List, not the game's own list. My 3DS has everyone on EoFF Friended. If I transfer my game to a different 3DS, that 3DS has a different Friends List. Does my in-game FSZ list change to reflect the new Friends List of the new system?

Not sure. If you have friends in common between both consoles, those won't change for sure. You'll have to try and find out.

I saw that app as well, it's big on Smogon for similar reasons, but I don't know that I can use it, as my 3DS connects through my wireless router, set up to network our family's machines, rather than through my PC itself (my PC has both a wired and a wireless connection, so I could turn off the wireless, but I don't know that it would help).

I would be willing to trade to get mine, just so that I know, but without a way to figure out what my eggs are, I don't know how much good it does.

If you can connect wired to your router, then you might be able to use your wifi card for the app (it creates a custom access point, but it needs to be able to allow hosted networks, somewhere in the smogon thread is the way to check for that). On my eeepc t101mt, it seems I can have wifi on to connect to my router *and* have it act as an AP, might work for you aswell.
Egg shiny values you can find by trading with one of us with the app, just trade back and forth all the eggs you want checked then we pm you the list or tell you in the chatroom.

[Agent Proto]

To my knowledge, the system is based off of the 3DS Friends List, not the game's own list. My 3DS has everyone on EoFF Friended. If I transfer my game to a different 3DS, that 3DS has a different Friends List. Does my in-game FSZ list change to reflect the new Friends List of the new system?

Not sure. If you have friends in common between both consoles, those won't change for sure. You'll have to try and find out.

I've just gave this a shot to see if there is any difference. I wasn't sure what to expect but it surprised me a bit. For one, when you insert your game into another 3DS, your game will instantly recognize this and make changes on the PSS accordingly. For one, your list of Friends will change to that over to the Friend List on the 3DS you now use, this is true for the FZS as well. So, to put it bluntly, yes it does. You will see a message that says "The Nintendo 3DS has been changed! Updating Friends status."