Recycled story?

[Ayen]

Final Fantasy V was the first classic Final Fantasy I played thanks to Final Fantasy Anthology for the PlayStation. So I didn't notice the similarities it had with the first game until I got around to playing it. In both Final Fantasy games the element air, earth and water are taken away and I think the only additional one is fire since I don't remember fire being mentioned in the former. I don't think the story was the same but that particular element was, it's just they had more characterization because of the growing tech and being able to develop characters more.

So, I was just wondering if there was any reason they recycled that plot point or was it just a tribute to the first game?

[VeloZer0]

Crystals in general used to be a series staple, and I suspect with elemental crystals there are only so many ways in which to use them.

[Jessweeee♪]

We gotta do this stuff because crystals: FFI-VI, ,IX, XII, XIII.

[Elpizo]

We gotta do this stuff because crystals: FFI-VI, ,IX, XII, XIII.

There were no crystals in II, though. Replace it with XIV and you have the complete list (not counting spinoffs).

[Ayen]

Will the world blow up if I put the crystals in the wrong order?

[VeloZer0]

I would imagine putting the water crystal in the earth crystal's spot could create problems.

[Ayen]

I would imagine putting the water crystal in the earth crystal's spot could create problems.

So that's how Jesus did it.

[Sephiroth]

We gotta do this stuff because crystals: FFI-VI, ,IX, XII, XIII.

There were no crystals in II, though. Replace it with XIV and you have the complete list (not counting spinoffs).

Final Fantasy VII's Materia and Final Fantasy X's Spheres are the same as well. Great Materia is even in normal crystal form and Raw materia is, too.

[VeloZer0]

Did FF10s spheres have anything remotely to do with the story? Materia featured prominently as part of FF7s world, but I don't even remember spheres being mentioned outside of battle. Also going by the fact that materia are and infinitely re-configurable setup that can be swapped freely between characters and spheres are pre-determined grids who's progression is unique to each character the main similarity I see between them is they are both the same shape.

[Jessweeee♪]

I think if we take materia we have to take the spheres as well. Materia is a product of the life stream, just like the spheres are infused with the same pyreflies aeons and fiends are made of.

[VeloZer0]

I think I am obviously missing the point you two are getting at.

[Sephiroth]

Since the lifestream and the farplane are of the same substance and all as far as the canonical connection of them having one universe and same basic things (like FFXIII and FFXV) is mentioned, Materia and Spheres are pretty much one and the same. That is why I mentioned both. They are crystal-like objects, in fact one and the same thing and so I mentioned them in the crystal list.

[Jessweeee♪]

We gotta do this stuff because crystals: FFI-VI, ,IX, XII, XIII.

We gotta do this stuff because the life force of the planet wills it: every FF but FFVIII.

[Elpizo]

We gotta do this stuff because crystals: FFI-VI, ,IX, XII, XIII.

We gotta do this stuff because the life force of the planet wills it: every FF but FFVIII.

Not in II. Again. Also, it's debatable that the life force of the planet is what makes you go through your journey in VI and IX. The crystal in IX doesn't even come into play until Disc 4.

[Elskidor]

Crystals also made a cameo in Super Mario RPG (I think they used Final Fantasy music for the a fight too), as it was in an old Final Fantasy anime that I've noticed a lot of people don't know exist. It's not really recycled anymore than Chocobo, Biggs & Wedge (Even a Chrono Trigger cameo), Cid or Moogles are recycled...it use to just be the thing, and eventually it was used less and less in current stories or they are just called something different. From my understanding the crystals are returning in FFXV.

If one had the time I'm sure they could create an ultimate timeline to connect all the games through the crystals, Materia, Espers or whatever.