I got a refurb 60gb for $299 at the end of 2007, the ones with all the card readers and full BC, for GTA IV and MGS4 in the coming year. I played a lot of FFXII, MGS and even emulated SNES games on it since the PS3 had Linux back then, too. But since then I think they did a good job making new games for it. There's definitely alot more to play this time around on PS4.