Frozen

**maybee** · 03-22-2014, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Jiro

I watched this the other night. It was okay, far from the best Disney film. Bit of a stretch to say it's even inspired by The Snow Queen.

It was going to be a bit more like the original tale, with Elsa being the villian and icy- cold Snow Queen, but they changed it all because of Let It Go.

They felt that it was too misunderstood for a villian song, so they completely changed Elsa, and choose Hans to be the villian instead.

**Pike** · 03-22-2014, 05:26 PM

Honestly I can't even put my finger on why I loved it. But the more I watch it the more I see little storytelling nuances or symbolism that I didn't pick up on the first time that make it better. I also ultimately consider it a "villain-less" film, much like, say, Finding Nemo.

I don't think it's Disney's overall best, but I do think it's their best CGI movie (if we're counting Pixar as a separate entity). And I say this as someone who loved the heck out of Wreck-It Ralph.

**Shlup** · 03-23-2014, 03:58 AM

Halloween time at Disneyland is when they bring out the villains. If they start bringing out Hans I will die. His villain song is Love is an Open Door for goodness sake. xD

**Calliope** · 03-23-2014, 04:47 AM

We watched it the other night, and I basically spent it thinking:

Mental illness parallel
Mental illness parallel
Mental illness parallel
God I want a reindeer
Mental illness parallel

**Aulayna** · 03-23-2014, 05:01 AM

Originally Posted by Shlup

Halloween time at Disneyland is when they bring out the villains. If they start bringing out Hans I will die. His villain song is Love is an Open Door for goodness sake. xD

This has to happen now.

**Pike** · 03-23-2014, 10:21 AM

Agreed; this needs to occur.

**maybee** · 03-23-2014, 03:36 PM

Oh gosh, I don't think that Hans is going to be that big of a misfit. After all his face, when he was about to behead Elsa

Hans - DisneyWiki

**maybee** · 03-26-2014, 06:19 AM

Double posting, kind of, but it's worth it.

**Shlup** · 03-26-2014, 10:14 AM

Double post approved. I lol'd.

**Vyk** · 03-26-2014, 10:39 PM

Just watched this the other night (finally). And while I think it was a really good movie, I don't think it stands shoulder to shoulder with Wreck-It Ralph or Tangled. The songs didn't really do anything for me, they seemed more conversational than emotional, and it reminded me too much of country music. The plot was really disappointing to me. I think they vastly dropped the ball and missed a huge opportunity for a more complicated character driven plot, with (SPOILER)the misunderstood villain possibility, and the possibility of a love triangle. I was genuinely curious how they were going to resolve the love triangle. I though it was hugely mature story-telling to bite the cliche plot and have someone actually give up on their love for the greater good. And it seems more realistic. Most of the time when we meet someone awesome, they are involved with someone else, and we have to live with that. I loved the realism that was taking place. The fact that the betrayal caught me by surprise means it didn't have to happen. The fact that a villain or two was already in place by that point made it seem crowded and pointless. I guess I just disagreed with a lot of narrative choices they made and think it would have been a much better movie had they made braver decisions rather than stick to old tropes where true love is "the one" and it finds a way regardless of what else is going on in your life. It started out so complex and interesting, and tied up way too nicely, it was very jarring and disjointed. But I've only viewed it once, and can't comment on how much things grow on you the way most people are saying. So that's just my two cents as a single-viewer