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    Default 101 Things Square Enix Could Learn from Other Media

    1. Game of Thrones: Killing off your lead characters will not ruin the game. Death happens! "Oh, everyone survives" is unrealistic (and, with Final Fantasy, a bit predictable).
    Bow before the mighty Javoo!

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    2 Attack on Titan- Don't be afraid to make your characters short, have goofy outdated hair styles, have the same uniform/ lack of creative clothing, as longs as they're all well developed and like-able. You don't have to try and create pretty Bishie boys and chicks with DDD sized boobs to try and get fans buying your games.

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    "Oh, everyone survives"
    But what about Aerith ? She was sort of important. And Galuf ??

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    3. Lord of the Rings: Having a Super Bad Guy that actually is the Super Bad Guy in the plot is a good thing. He might not even need a huge 'angle' other than "I want to take over the world and enslave everyone." Simple can work really well if it's done right. But Sauron was cool because from the start, you knew he was the Big Evil in the story. There was not some Secret Hidden Final Boss You Didn't Expect.

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    But what about Aerith ? She was sort of important. And Galuf ??
    I would not consider them 'the norm'. We haven't had a playable character die in... what... 16 years?

    EDIT: Changed the title, perhaps that's more appropriate.
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    3. Whose Line is it Anyway? - Having Collin Mocherie will make your game better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loony BoB View Post
    We haven't had a playable character die in... what... 16 years?
    Yeah there was (SPOILER) Serah Farron, but with LR she comes back


    Spoiler tagged because of LR spoils *

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    3. Whose Line is it Anyway? - Having Collin Mocherie will make your game better.
    Hell yes

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    I mean in a complete story where they stay dead. I don't trust SE not to revive what maybee was talking aboutSerah by the time they're done with the XIII trilogy.
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    4. Almost anything by Joss Whedon: You can still be serious, tell a good story AND STILL be fun. Quit with all this melodramatic crap and crack a joke every once in a while that makes us laugh. Jesus. Game of Thrones more fun than you and people die all the time in that.

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    5. Xenosaga/Xenogears:

    I learned things about science, religion, and pshycological theories from playing these games. Add in some of that stuff with a database. You don't have to go super detailed, but by throwing it in, it pique's my curiosity, and I look it up and research it on my own and learn things.

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    6. Hannibal Lecter - The best villains have humour and attitude.
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    7. Xenoblade Chronicles - you can tell a great story while giving players the freedom of exploring a huge world that is inhabited by thriving communities that feel real, letting the players follow said story at their own pace, doing as many sidequests as they want along the way.

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    The Non-Bishi: Not every male protagonist has to look like a 14-year-old beauty queen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loony BoB View Post
    I mean in a complete story where they stay dead. I don't trust SE not to revive what maybee was talking aboutSerah by the time they're done with the XIII trilogy.
    Well, Auron was gone forever. Jecht was good and died. Shuyin and Lenne could finally go. Cid Raines died. Someone who becomes a hero in Final Fantasy XIII-3 Lightning Returns dies forever, Reks died, Rasler died, Noah (Gabranth) died, they are all good people (some earlier, some later). And all important characters who died die in a world where the existence of afterlife is proven.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loony BoB View Post
    3. Lord of the Rings: Having a Super Bad Guy that actually is the Super Bad Guy in the plot is a good thing. He might not even need a huge 'angle' other than "I want to take over the world and enslave everyone." Simple can work really well if it's done right. But Sauron was cool because from the start, you knew he was the Big Evil in the story. There was not some Secret Hidden Final Boss You Didn't Expect.
    Actually I was always disappointed by Sauron and that he didn't even appear until I thought about how he is the Ring (you could say his Horcrux, that was the book Tom Riddle read to find out about them, ha, ha, ha) as well so his influence is badass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
    Well, Auron was gone forever. Jecht was good and died. Shuyin and Lenne could finally go. Cid Raines died. Someone who becomes a hero in Final Fantasy XIII-3 Lightning Returns dies forever, Reks died, Rasler died, Noah (Gabranth) died, they are all good people (some earlier, some later). And all important characters who died die in a world where the existence of afterlife is proven.
    While true, none of these are of the level of Aeris' death. Actual playable lead characters in actual main games in the series. This simply doesn't happen anymore and my only guess is that SE are... scared? Maybe? I dunno.
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    9: Character with a daddy issue complex like .....Star Wars




    10: Tragic flawed hero like Batman, John Locke, Harvey Dent, Boromir, Thorin, Anakin. Death of the main hero would not be out of the question!
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    The Dark Knight: The best villains have no rules and they reign with chaos and unpredictability.

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