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    :monster: Who is the "Top Dog" ?

    For years it has been uncertain who is the "Top Dog" so to speak of the Final Fantasy world. Cloud Strife, Squall Leonhart, Zidane Tribal and last but not least Tidus. They've all been compared to in many ways and their definitely the 4 most talked about protagonists of the Final Fantasy franchise. And no, Sephiroth does NOT count because he is a villain, and don't any of you even dare think about saying Lightning or i will put lego pieces inside of your shoes. So, who do you think it should be?
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    Top Dog in what way? If we're talking power and skill I think all four would hold their own against the other given what all they've been through in their respective stories. Character wise? I'm leaning towards it being a toss up between Cloud and Squall, out of the four of them, but I feel guilty voting having not been able to complete Zidane's story.
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    Yuna.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarvingUp360 View Post
    Sephiroth does NOT count because he is a villain

    So you don't accept that Sephiroth is the secret main character of all Final Fantasys?

    The Top Dog is Cloud. He is as much trademark as Sephiroth.

    EDIT: Having godly power alone means nothing. And she is not really a Goddess just on the same level because of her connection to the important Gods. Cloud can hold his own against Lightning easily.
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    Out of those four? Some of the less major characters from their selected games are more top dog than they are. In terms of power they would all be a match or Squall and Cloud would be sitting there taking a beating and trying to stall long enough to reach their limit breaks. I would probably pick Cecil, Terra or even Ashe over the four at hand anyway though. Lightning is a Goddess so she would destroy them all

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    I vote "Black Mage". C'mon, what's more iconic? (Aside from Moogles/Chocobos maybe.)

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    Vivi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elskidor View Post
    In terms of power they would all be a match or Squall and Cloud would be sitting there taking a beating and trying to stall long enough to reach their limit breaks. I would probably pick Cecil, Terra or even Ashe over the four at hand anyway though. Lightning is a Goddess so she would destroy them all
    You need to rewatch Advent Children, or even some cutscenes in Crisis Core or Dirge of Cerberus, and then come back and try to say it's "close."

    Squall and Tidus are out of their league in terms of strength, speed and durability. Cloud would kill them before they knew there was a fight.

    Zidane has the whole "stronger than base Kuja" thing going for him though. So there could be a challenge there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forsaken Lover View Post
    Zidane has the whole "stronger than base Kuja" thing going for him though. So there could be a challenge there.
    And even Zidane's power is not sure. We know Kuja is his prototype and he is Mikoto's, but that only means he is meant to be an improvement which was born to replace his "brother", not how much and in which terms. Kuja surely is better as a sorcerer (and I do not talk about stats, of course) and other stuff, the prototype does not need to be beaten overall in all aspects. Stil he can get better later. There is no totally accurate and unequivocal explanation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elskidor View Post
    Vivi?
    Vivi!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forsaken Lover View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Elskidor View Post
    In terms of power they would all be a match or Squall and Cloud would be sitting there taking a beating and trying to stall long enough to reach their limit breaks. I would probably pick Cecil, Terra or even Ashe over the four at hand anyway though. Lightning is a Goddess so she would destroy them all
    You need to rewatch Advent Children, or even some cutscenes in Crisis Core or Dirge of Cerberus, and then come back and try to say it's "close."

    Squall and Tidus are out of their league in terms of strength, speed and durability. Cloud would kill them before they knew there was a fight.

    Zidane has the whole "stronger than base Kuja" thing going for him though. So there could be a challenge there.
    Squall was holding his own pretty well against the likes of Sephiroth at the beginning of Dissidia, I think he can hold out against Cloud okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shauna View Post
    Yuna.
    No, Tifa
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    Nah, still Yuna. :3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shauna View Post
    Nah, still Yuna. :3
    Still Yuna?
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    The answer is obviously Gilgamesh.

    Out of those four though, it's tough for me. I liked them all. They all had some form of internal torment yet kept putting on a smile and determinedly looked forward. Except for Squall, that is. He had a different way of dealing with his problems. It's a toss up between Cloud, Squall and Tidus and I really can't narrow it down any further. Actually, probably the only reason Zidane falls a bit behind is because FF9 doesn't really have nostalgic value for me ^^

    Btw, Squall would totally win in a fight. Out of all of them, to me he always stood out above the others in terms of gameplay because of his sheer strength. I mean, he always does 1.5x damage and when in critical hitpoints, he always does between 6x and 12x damage. Not to mention the fact that he has perfect accuracy and Lion Heart is the most ridiculously powerful Limit Break, with not only 17 hits, but those hits actually deal a MULTIPLE of his base damage, rather than a fraction which is the usual deal with multi-hitters.

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