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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Wolf Leonhart View Post
    Auronlu's House of Sin - Final Fantasy VII Recap, Ep. II: Cloud Hears Voices

    Found this. Here's an excerpt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Translated from the Final Fantasy VII Ultimania Omega
    (Page 68) As Cloud is trying to place the bomb, a mysterious voice speaks to him. Later, this same kind of mysterious voice resounds in Cloud’s head in the scene where he and a voice have a conversation, and it offers him reminders. These voices are the original Cloud, as — due to Hojo’s Sephiroth Clones experiment — Zack’s personality merged with his, creating the present day Cloud, producing a conflict of multiple personalities(—>P.11).

    During the scene in the first mako reactor, what [the voice] says is it [trying] to point [Cloud] toward the memory of Sephiroth five years ago in Nibelheim’s mako reactor, as the two places were similar. However, Cloud is not able to listen to the words of the memory.
    What I'm definitely getting at here is that the original Cloud has been at the Honeybee Inn before. Specifically in that room. That's why he freaks out and hears the voice. He isn't well liked, that's why the lady says "Poo, I mean, uh, sir" upon seeing him. She really isn't pleased to see him. Also, he clearly has a history with Mukki. Everything makes sense now.

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    I suppose that's possible if we want to seriously entertain the idea. The likelihood is slim imo, I mean, Zack was able to wander around Midgar, but he was actually a SOLDIER, Cloud was just a grunt subject to "stationing". I can't honestly imagine him appearing at Honeybee Inn enough or doing anything significant to stand out and especially garner in ill from the workers. Cloud's personality is far too withdrawn.
    Jack: How do you know?

    Will: It's more of a feeling really.

    Jack: Well, that's not scientific. Feeling isn't knowing. Feeling is believing. If you believe it, you can't know because there's no knowing what you believe. Then again, no one should believe what they know either. Once you know anything that anything becomes unbelievable if only by virtue of the fact you now... know it. You know?

    Will: No.

    If Demolition Man were remade today

    Huxley: What's wrong? You broke contact.
    Spartan: Contact? I didn't even touch you.
    Huxley: Don't you want to make love?
    Spartan: Is that what you call this? Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?
    Huxley: NO!
    Spartan: Whoa! Okay, calm down.
    Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
    Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
    Huxley: Physical relations in the way of intercourse are no longer acceptable John Spartan.
    Spartan: What? Why the hell not?
    Huxley: It's the law, John. And for your information, the very idea that you suggested it makes me feel personally violated.
    Spartan: Wait a minute... violated? Huxley what the hell are you accusing me of here?
    Huxley: You need to leave, John.
    Spartan: But Huxley.
    Huxley: Get out!
    Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.

    By the way, that's called satire. Get over it.

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    I'm still on the fence over whether the "Poo, I mean sir" is a misplaced refference to when Cloud gets gets called "Pooch" later, and she's stopping herself, or she's litterally saying "poo" for some reason. If it's the former it's an error.

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    When was Cloud ever called "Pooch"?
    Jack: How do you know?

    Will: It's more of a feeling really.

    Jack: Well, that's not scientific. Feeling isn't knowing. Feeling is believing. If you believe it, you can't know because there's no knowing what you believe. Then again, no one should believe what they know either. Once you know anything that anything becomes unbelievable if only by virtue of the fact you now... know it. You know?

    Will: No.

    If Demolition Man were remade today

    Huxley: What's wrong? You broke contact.
    Spartan: Contact? I didn't even touch you.
    Huxley: Don't you want to make love?
    Spartan: Is that what you call this? Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?
    Huxley: NO!
    Spartan: Whoa! Okay, calm down.
    Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
    Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
    Huxley: Physical relations in the way of intercourse are no longer acceptable John Spartan.
    Spartan: What? Why the hell not?
    Huxley: It's the law, John. And for your information, the very idea that you suggested it makes me feel personally violated.
    Spartan: Wait a minute... violated? Huxley what the hell are you accusing me of here?
    Huxley: You need to leave, John.
    Spartan: But Huxley.
    Huxley: Get out!
    Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.

    By the way, that's called satire. Get over it.

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    By the chicks in the makeup room.

    They see me rolling. They hating, patrolling.
    Trying to catch me riding dirty.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MJN SEIFER View Post
    I'm still on the fence over whether the "Poo, I mean sir" is a misplaced refference to when Cloud gets gets called "Pooch" later, and she's stopping herself, or she's litterally saying "poo" for some reason. If it's the former it's an error.
    I think it's her saying "Crap" and then realizing it's out loud and their client can hear her being annoyed. At least that's my take on it.
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    Jinx you are absolutely smurfing insane. Never change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinx View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MJN SEIFER View Post
    I'm still on the fence over whether the "Poo, I mean sir" is a misplaced refference to when Cloud gets gets called "Pooch" later, and she's stopping herself, or she's litterally saying "poo" for some reason. If it's the former it's an error.
    I think it's her saying "Crap" and then realizing it's out loud and their client can hear her being annoyed. At least that's my take on it.
    That would make sense, thanks.

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    There is no point in the game in which Cloud is called "Pooch."
    Jack: How do you know?

    Will: It's more of a feeling really.

    Jack: Well, that's not scientific. Feeling isn't knowing. Feeling is believing. If you believe it, you can't know because there's no knowing what you believe. Then again, no one should believe what they know either. Once you know anything that anything becomes unbelievable if only by virtue of the fact you now... know it. You know?

    Will: No.

    If Demolition Man were remade today

    Huxley: What's wrong? You broke contact.
    Spartan: Contact? I didn't even touch you.
    Huxley: Don't you want to make love?
    Spartan: Is that what you call this? Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?
    Huxley: NO!
    Spartan: Whoa! Okay, calm down.
    Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
    Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
    Huxley: Physical relations in the way of intercourse are no longer acceptable John Spartan.
    Spartan: What? Why the hell not?
    Huxley: It's the law, John. And for your information, the very idea that you suggested it makes me feel personally violated.
    Spartan: Wait a minute... violated? Huxley what the hell are you accusing me of here?
    Huxley: You need to leave, John.
    Spartan: But Huxley.
    Huxley: Get out!
    Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.

    By the way, that's called satire. Get over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercen-X View Post
    There is no point in the game in which Cloud is called "Pooch."
    Taken from the script hosted on RPGamer:

    (Cloud ducks into the dressing room for the Honeybees and speaks to them.
    Repeatedly.)

    "Hmm, hmm, hmm....."
    "Ohhh, I just can't seem to lose weight. Hmm, hmm, hmm..."
    "Sir!! You can't come in here."
    "(Yuk..... a pervert...)"

    "Eyaah!"
    "Don't!"

    "Paste, paste, paste....."
    "(Oh God... here's another one of those guys. You know, the
    delicate type. Just ignore him, just ignore him.)"
    "Fluff, fluff, fluff..."
    "(Hmm! I guess he doesn't realize his position. I feel sorry for
    him. Just ignore him, just ignore him.)"
    "Pita, pita, pita...."
    "(God, what a pest! All right, get out of here! You dog...)"
    "(That's it, I'll name him 'pooch'.)"
    "Mix, mix, mix...."
    "(What should I do... Is he following me? Really? What if he
    follows me home...?)"
    "(Poochy'll do it, I'm sure of it...)"
    "Shake, shake, shake..."
    "(You think he's after me? Really? This guy makes me sick... And
    his eyes are weird too....)"
    "(Yeah, don't hurt these guys' feelings. Let's at least say 'hi'
    to him."
    "Uhh.... Hel... Hello."
    "What a nice day, today."

    They see me rolling. They hating, patrolling.
    Trying to catch me riding dirty.


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    ^To be fair, it's not a line that everyone will know as you have to keep talking to them. That happens a lot in FF games, what is a hidden fact to one play is something everyone knows to another.

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    I can't resist an opportunity to be right though But yes, it's not easy to see that bit of speech, and it's not like that dialogue proves anything regarding the "poo" line, especially given that the girl who says poo, uh I mean sir is actually the first person you encounter and doesn't have Cloud "stalking" her.

    They see me rolling. They hating, patrolling.
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