Do you remember when people liked talking about games instead of hating it

[Niale]

Well, let's take a quick look back shall we.
What has changed?
Is it..... Internet that has made hate cool?
You know, just find a game, invite a friend over and ey, its cool.
Evolution. Enjoy.

[Aulayna]

Nothing has really changed. As a child of the 80s I grew up with magazines like Games Master and Computer and Video Games and even back then the letters section was full of Nintendo vs Sega trash talk. People still slated those who thought Columns was harder than Tetris. There was still rivalry.

The difference was the internet wasn't as widespread then so this type of thing was simply confined to magazine letters section, trash talk on Games Master or Games World (the tv shows) especially when it came to rare cross-platform titles about which controller was better to play them with. Heck back then PC gamers didn't really give a rats ass about consoles as consoles were still very much in their infancy and gaming machines were still more like the likes of Amigas and Commodores.

You know, Niale, for someone who does a lot of black and white judging about people being trolls or sheep, or simply unable to formulate their opinions - you do an awful lot of posting vague dross and letting YouTube videos make your point for you. I'm beginning to think, pot. Kettle. Black.

[Slothy]

For someone who hates the internet, you seem to use it a lot.

[Niale]

For someone who hates the internet, you seem to use it a lot.

Enlightenment has to come through somehow

Nothing has really changed. As a child of the 80s I grew up with magazines like Games Master and Computer and Video Games and even back then the letters section was full of Nintendo vs Sega trash talk. People still slated those who thought Columns was harder than Tetris. There was still rivalry.

The difference was the internet wasn't as widespread then so this type of thing was simply confined to magazine letters section, trash talk on Games Master or Games World (the tv shows) especially when it came to rare cross-platform titles about which controller was better to play them with. Heck back then PC gamers didn't really give a rats ass about consoles as consoles were still very much in their infancy and gaming machines were still more like the likes of Amigas and Commodores.

You know, Niale, for someone who does a lot of black and white judging about people being trolls or sheep, or simply unable to formulate their opinions - you do an awful lot of posting vague dross and letting YouTube videos make your point for you. I'm beginning to think, pot. Kettle. Black.

I'm gonna let this video speak for me too aswell .
And when it comes to internet hate before and now, not really. Maybe in america, but not here
Also, wink


I like this comment. Have fun
@Wahoosmurf
brilliant critique of the internet hate culture, people smurfing suck.



Enjoy gaming either way. Keep that in your heart

[Agent Proto]

I'm going to let this video speak for most of us.

[Skyblade]

I love talking about games I enjoy. It's why I come to this forum. It's just hard to find people who care enough to listen and discuss back. There are too many games, and everyone has their own preference. Finding someone who is just as interested as you in some of the more esoteric titles (and there are a great many such games that I love) is not easy.

[Niale]

I love talking about games I enjoy. It's why I come to this forum. It's just hard to find people who care enough to listen and discuss back. There are too many games, and everyone has their own preference. Finding someone who is just as interested as you in some of the more esoteric titles (and there are a great many such games that I love) is not easy.

That's the spirit.

[Agent Proto]

Anyway, to the point. I just want to say that I enjoy talking about games, but it's just hard to do that nowadays because of the negativity some people have concerning some games. They have strong feelings, and they tend to post negatively about them, and that really does kind of put the mood down to talk about games. The Internet did bring a lot a mixture of every kind of people together, and that includes those who want to ruin the fun of discussion.

[Aulayna]

I like how Niale also assumes everyone is from America.

Wink.

(hint: I'm not from America)

[edczxcvbnm]

If all anyone is doing is praising games then that is just as bad. We should have conversations about why a game works or doesn't work and people will have different opinions. Those opinions should be passionate and full of whatever feels one may have about said game. That could be lots of udder hate for terrible games like FF6 or Ride to Hell Retribution or hot steamy orgasmic love for games like FF12 or the Rez Vibrator.

Just invite a friend over and enjoy? That is how you end up watching and complaining about what a troutty game RE6 is for damn near an entire weekend >.> That did NOT really happen with Sephex. Some people say it did but we both banished the memory from our collective consciousness.

[Niale]

If all anyone is doing is praising games then that is just as bad. We should have conversations about why a game works or doesn't work and people will have different opinions. Those opinions should be passionate and full of whatever feels one may have about said game. That could be lots of udder hate for terrible games like FF6 or Ride to Hell Retribution or hot steamy orgasmic love for games like FF12 or the Rez Vibrator.

Just invite a friend over and enjoy? That is how you end up watching and complaining about what a troutty game RE6 is for damn near an entire weekend >.> That did NOT really happen with Sephex. Some people say it did but we both banished the memory from our collective consciousness.

You mean this. God bless the internet :P
Grand Theft Auto V Review - YouTube
Stupidity is our name, how it has devolved :P
Reviews is one guy vs others, the problem is if you get enough followers they will defend that clown to the end of the world, there is no discussion its he is right you are wrong. Reviewers are the god of the internship. I mean, it works if IGN does it, because that's legit, but when some "AVGN", its holy war, basically :P

To keep it short, YouTube is basically a horrible place. And you will learn nothing about game from people there, basically better to play it by yourself or with friends, internet can sucker stupidity, because people love stupidity. That's the kind of awareness i hope internet will be further away from, but who knows.

Its amazing when i see this i think, wow how did we devolve from then to now.

I mean people say USA is stupid, i don't think so, but the places on the internet, yes. I mean, people complain and say PewDiePie is bad, but most of the content on YouTube isn't any better, (Haven't watched any PDP though)

I guess this is like the answer from USA to say, hey guy, only americans can post stupid stuff on YouTube, this is no place for Swedes :P
(Joking)

YouTube, by americans, for americans
I mean its google They pretty much own the site, but there are some people who are ok "ClassicGameRoom" which jumped off YouTube and joined "Dailymotion" instead. So that is respect.

I don't watch much anymore, but those are basically the thing you can watch and not be addicted to it like cocaine.

If this helps, i don't know. But ey, have fun gaming. That's what matter.
Game on

[Del Murder]

If only there was a forum where people could talk about the games they like... :luigi:

[Shaibana]

i really cant stand that blind rage between consoles (im looking at you, ps3-xbox :l)
there is simply no reasoning with those ragers :S
they dont even explain themselves, all they say is: ''OMG noob console blablabla''

its blind rage and its only becaus they happen to have the other console.
i have a ps3 but i dont hate xbox..

[Bolivar]

This is a topic I think about a lot, as it is very noticeable how gamers at large have become more skeptical and pessimistic than ever. You don't have to go far to find a "Top 10 disappointments of the year" list, even on the first page here we have a thread about the worst games we've played.

I think internet discussions, comments sections and forums brought this out because now we're all in a position to write and one of the lowest yet seductive forms of writing is that of a smug, snarky critique. It's fun to read and fun to write (Ratatooie) and with the web giving a column to the masses I feel that's the kind of attitude its generated.

I think its dangerous because I've seen many ambitious games this generation get panned and shunned, as if they're being punished for their idealism by journalists and gamers who can't experience the same joy. They blast said games for arbitrary reasons such as the gameplay not being accessible enough or not having enough of the author's ever-changing definition of "innovation." I'm afraid this will only lead to game makers fearing to dream big or take risks.

You have to enjoy your hobby. One of my new year's resolutions is to spend less time reading and arguing about games and spend more time enjoying them. I've made an effort not to post as much or spend too much time foraging for gaming discussion. And overall, I am optimistic about where gaming is at and having a hell of a time with the current consoles and handhelds.

[edczxcvbnm]

When did this become a discussion on youtube? We were conversing about the highly contentious topic dealing with matters of game negativity. You even posed the question of why we can't we just invite a friend over and play a game. You have basically devolved this into "I don't like Youtube" again. I am not clicking on either of those two youtube links. If you have a point to make then just express yourself.

Also, Del Murder, awesome man...just...awe-some!