Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 16 to 29 of 29

Thread: Mythology!

  1. #16
    Steve Steve Steve Steve Iceglow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Achievement City
    Posts
    8,250
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    I love Asgardian (Norse) mythology. Ancient Greece is a treasure trove the likes of which will never be seen again. Celtic myths are fantastic, that being said they're also very contradictory and less well preserved due to the destruction they faced at the hands of the Christians who took over.

  2. #17
    cyka blyat escobert's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2001
    Location
    Rush B! NO STOP!
    Posts
    17,742
    Blog Entries
    4

    Default

    Since I come from Vikings of some sorts at one point in time, I am most interested in Norse gods.

  3. #18
    Skyblade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Earth, approximately
    Posts
    10,443

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Spuuky View Post
    I like Christian mythology. I enjoyed Paradise Lost despite my professor's seeming attempts to make it as bad as possible to read.
    Paradise Lost is not Christian mythology.

    I like Norse and Christian myself, chiefly. I'm quite knowledgeable about Greek, Roman, and Egyptian, but don't really like them, and I'm starting to delve into Japanese.
    My friend Delzethin is currently running a GoFundMe account to pay for some extended medical troubles he's had. He's had chronic issues and lifetime troubles that have really crippled his career opportunities, and he's trying to get enough funding to get back to a stable medical situation. If you like his content, please support his GoFundMe, or even just contribute to his Patreon.

    He can really use a hand with this, and any support you can offer is appreciated.

  4. #19
    Resident Critic Ayen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Location
    Kansas City, Kansas
    Posts
    13,361
    Articles
    12
    Blog Entries
    76

    Default

    I'm a fan of Christian mythology too. I was just afraid to put the words Christian and mythology together earlier in fear of getting yelled at by somebody.

  5. #20
    Skyblade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Earth, approximately
    Posts
    10,443

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ToriJ View Post
    I'm a fan of Christian mythology too. I was just afraid to put the words Christian and mythology together earlier in fear of getting yelled at by somebody.
    Myth - a traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation, especially one that is concerned with deities or demigods and explains some practice, rite, or phenomenon of nature.

    It's certainly debatable, but the idea of a myth always being untrue has long since fallen out of style. The word's meaning has vastly changed over the years, and I see no real reason to argue with the current usage. It's simple, and conveys the idea easily enough that anyone you are discussing it with will know what you mean.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jinx View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Skyblade View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spuuky View Post
    I like Christian mythology. I enjoyed Paradise Lost despite my professor's seeming attempts to make it as bad as possible to read.
    Paradise Lost is not Christian mythology.
    It's a fictional story centered around a fictional character from the Bible/Christian mythology. It counts.
    It reuses a couple names and otherwise completely ignores the source material. If Paradise Lost counts as Christian Mythology, then Final Fantasy counts as Hindu mythology just for using the name "Shiva", and counts as an extension of Kabbalah for using "Sephiroth".
    My friend Delzethin is currently running a GoFundMe account to pay for some extended medical troubles he's had. He's had chronic issues and lifetime troubles that have really crippled his career opportunities, and he's trying to get enough funding to get back to a stable medical situation. If you like his content, please support his GoFundMe, or even just contribute to his Patreon.

    He can really use a hand with this, and any support you can offer is appreciated.

  6. #21
    Recognized Member Scotty_ffgamer's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Eizon
    Posts
    5,275
    Articles
    4
    Blog Entries
    4

    FFXIV Character

    Scotty Ffgamer (Sargatanas)
    Contributions
    • Former Cid's Knight

    Default

    Milton at least had Greek and Roman mythological epics in mind when he wrote Paradise Lost, including an invocation to a Muse at the beginning of Book 1. I've honestly only read bits and pieces of Paradise Lost, and I can't remember very much of what I did read. We had a lot of discussions about Paradise Lost and old Christian cycle plays in one of my college English classes that I should try to find some of my notes on, both from class discussions and my own research. Anyways, there are a lot of beliefs with regards to Satan that at least for a time were highly regarded as fact in Christianity that originate from Paradise Lost and some of these cycle plays. Well, if I remember right, they originated in those plays and were expanded upon by Milton. Either way, the epic held true to a lot of beliefs despite its deviations from the Bible.

    Long story short, I'd say it would be pretty easy to debate that Paradise Lost should fit into a Christian Mythology regardless of how much it deviates from the Bible. Not that it really matters that much. I didn't find Paradise Lost too terribly interesting from the bits I've read.

  7. #22
    Nobody's Hero Cuchulainn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Belfast, Ireland
    Posts
    4,600

    Default

    My answer is obvious. In fact it's so obvious I'd be insulting everyone's intelligence by saying it and I've already had too many warning for insulting ppl with fragile sensibilities.

    I also like Roman and Greek stuff. And Christian Myths. That fella Jesus. What a story! They should definitely make a film.

  8. #23
    Recognized Member Shorty's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Posts
    23,629
    Articles
    11
    Contributions
    • Former Cid's Knight

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyblade View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jinx View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Skyblade View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spuuky View Post
    I like Christian mythology. I enjoyed Paradise Lost despite my professor's seeming attempts to make it as bad as possible to read.
    Paradise Lost is not Christian mythology.
    It's a fictional story centered around a fictional character from the Bible/Christian mythology. It counts.
    It reuses a couple names and otherwise completely ignores the source material. If Paradise Lost counts as Christian Mythology, then Final Fantasy counts as Hindu mythology just for using the name "Shiva", and counts as an extension of Kabbalah for using "Sephiroth".
    I'd consider that naming a couple of video game characters after gods and having no further relation to the gods' stories is far and away a different thing than fully centering an elaborative story around characters and events that happened in the bible and christian literature. It absolutely directly concerns the source material.

  9. #24
    *permanent smite* Spuuky's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Location
    Hell, eventually.
    Posts
    3,656

    Default

    It also matters that Paradise Lost actually cares about and intends to extend the Christian mythos, and Final Fantasy does not attempt to do that with Hinduism. I'd also say that things like the Divine Comedy count. I don't see why they wouldn't.

    I'd even say that a game like Darksiders is "Christian mythology" in setting or at least inspiration, even though it obviously has very, very little in common with the source material, however strict you want to be with the source material.

  10. #25
    Skyblade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Earth, approximately
    Posts
    10,443

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Spuuky View Post
    It also matters that Paradise Lost actually cares about and intends to extend the Christian mythos, and Final Fantasy does not attempt to do that with Hinduism. I'd also say that things like the Divine Comedy count. I don't see why they wouldn't.

    I'd even say that a game like Darksiders is "Christian mythology" in setting or at least inspiration, even though it obviously has very, very little in common with the source material, however strict you want to be with the source material.
    If that's what the criteria is, I'll agree and accept it. I'd then list Stargate as participating in both Egyptian and Greek mythologies (since they attempt to explain and expand the mythologies), but whatever.

    I count Paradise Lost as a Christian mythology fanfiction, rather than a member part of that mythology. It is an excellent piece, judged on its own merits, and only makes a few errors with the beliefs at its core, but it is full of events, struggles, and locales that simply never happened.

    If I were to write a book, today, detailing the struggles and adventures of the Norse gods beyond the myths established by the Norse people, would that count as an addition to the mythology? I have seen many such books, and I am quite a fan of several of them, but I never consider them part of the mythology, since they deviate so far from the original material.

    I suppose it is a matter of semantics. I'll concede it as a part of the "mythology", but not a part of the "lore" or "history". Will that work?


    Mostly, I loathe the piece for the way it massively skewed the perception of the Christian mythology, rather than for its own merits.
    My friend Delzethin is currently running a GoFundMe account to pay for some extended medical troubles he's had. He's had chronic issues and lifetime troubles that have really crippled his career opportunities, and he's trying to get enough funding to get back to a stable medical situation. If you like his content, please support his GoFundMe, or even just contribute to his Patreon.

    He can really use a hand with this, and any support you can offer is appreciated.

  11. #26
    *permanent smite* Spuuky's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Location
    Hell, eventually.
    Posts
    3,656

    Default

    Well, I certainly wouldn't call it Christian "history."

    Stargate doesn't feel right, because I don't feel (from my uninformed position) that they're likely actually taking the mythology seriously, but rather intentionally building a fictional TV show for entertainment. Maybe that isn't so different from Milton, but I guess Milton is long enough ago and culturally significant enough to have passed some mystery threshold in my mind, and Stargate hasn't.

    Then again, maybe you can include Stargate if that's how you feel about it, I can live with that.

  12. #27
    absolutely haram Recognized Member Madame Adequate's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Kirkwall
    Posts
    23,357

    FFXIV Character

    Hiero Dule (Brynhildr)
    Contributions
    • Former Cid's Knight

    Default

    Dude Paradise Lost is one of the most influential texts on Christianity since the Bible itself, so unless you are proposing that Milton actually wrote another Testament and was divinely inspired, it's Christian mythology.

    My favorite mythology is XIPE TOTEC, OUR LORD THE FLAYED ONE.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •