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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinoa View Post
    Your responses in this thread are functionally like a combination of slut-shaming and that thing arseholes do when they meet people with mental issues, i.e. "have you tried not being depressed?"; ignorance mixed with self-righteous judgemental-ness, and it's quite frankly disappointing to hear from people who normally try to consider things with more depth and clarity.
    And this kind of response is an absurd sort of twisting of someone's disagreement to your own stance by willfully ignoring reasonable and logical thinking. Akin to slut shaming?? Seriously you want to go there? In one situation you have someone who could potentially be harmed completely because another separate human being can't allow for someone to dress or express themselves in a way they deem appropriate. If someone else had forcibly given heroin to PSH because he had an addiction problem and therefore "deserved" to be drugged, then you're silly ass argument might have some semblance of making sense. And yeah, expressing sadness at the difficulties an addict faces without absolving them of their responsibilities is soooooo exactly like telling someone to just stop being depressed. You're so right! There is no distinction or nuance here! Please, give me a break. Ridiculous. Ten thousand eye rolling emoticons for you.

    I've had the option to take ecstasy before. And you know what? It's a fairly safe drug. The worst that happens is usually overheating or dehydration. But there is a small, very small, chance that you might have seizure or stroke cause of it. Now if I took some for recreational fun and ended up in the hospital, you know whose fault that would be? smurfing MINE. Jesus smurfing Christ on a stick. It would be my god damn fault. If the person I had got it from gave me some sort of shotty laced version of the drug then it would be that persons fault too. But just because multiple people might be at fault doesn't mean that the responsibility still wasn't mine own as well. Is that a difficult concept to grasp?

    No one is saying that the person who might have supplied PSH didn't have a hand in his death, just that this doesn't take away from PSH's own responsibility as well. Responsibility isn't a zero sum game. You can blame the government and society and dealers and bad friends and all sorts of other people. That doesn't absolve PSH for his own hand in his death. Not unless the death is somehow discovered to have been a murder staged as an overdose.
    Last edited by Miriel; 02-08-2014 at 07:08 PM.

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