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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi22 View Post
    Of course. Even amongst Christians, YEC's are a pretty fringe group as I understand it.
    Quote Originally Posted by ToriJ
    Likewise. It's comforting knowing they're the minority.
    NNNNNNNNNNNNNOPE! In U.S., 46% Hold Creationist View of Human Origins

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    Well that's just sad.

    I think before I moved to the U.S. I was fortunate enough to not have met anyone to my knowledge that believed in creationism.

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    Yeah the actual numbers are depressing. Polls have consistently shown that roughly half of the entire US does not believe in evolution. That's a significant majority of American Christians. That's not true of most other Western countries, however.

    Fortunately, I believe most of that is out of simple ignorance. With the ever-increasing access to information, hopefully that percentage drops -- just as the percentage of religiously-inclined Americans has been declining. My guess is that it's an inevitable trend.

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    That's 46% of Americans, not just American Christians?? I am so sad now.


    My uncle is right! Colleges are liberal factories out to destroy our godly nation with thinking and knowledge! Noooo!

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    There is a difference between creationism and Young Earth Creationism I believe. Don't ask me how because I largely tune out anyone once they say the word Creationism.

    That's still depressing, though technically, the minority. I think those percentages would look a bit different in other countries. Probably not where they should be, but I really hope the rest of the west isn't that stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Unne View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi22 View Post
    Of course. Even amongst Christians, YEC's are a pretty fringe group as I understand it.
    Quote Originally Posted by ToriJ
    Likewise. It's comforting knowing they're the minority.
    NNNNNNNNNNNNNOPE! In U.S., 46% Hold Creationist View of Human Origins
    You just couldn't let us have the comforting thought.

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    Polling creationism in Canada | NCSE

    Slightly less depressing in Canada, but not by much

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    Quote Originally Posted by shion View Post
    Polling creationism in Canada | NCSE

    Slightly less depressing in Canada, but not by much
    44 percent?! 44 smurfing percent?!

    That's it, I'm getting my bow. Waiting for these people to die of old age is taking too long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gallup
    Forty-six percent of Americans believe in the creationist view that God created humans in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years.
    It's possible their poll was flawed and many who answered "yes" believe God created everything, but billions of years ago... I'm going to decide to cling to that hope.

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    You can have your hope. I'm still putting my faith in deadly force.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi22 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by shion View Post
    Polling creationism in Canada | NCSE

    Slightly less depressing in Canada, but not by much
    44 percent?! 44 smurfing percent?!

    That's it, I'm getting my bow. Waiting for these people to die of old age is taking too long.
    Today on Hunting with Vivi!

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    If those people holding those signs truly believe those things then there is no hope for them. Anyone who brings up stuff like thermodynamics and says it disproves evolution pisses me off because it shows how little they know about the thing they're trying to use as proof.

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    AHHH!

    1. Yes.

    2. No. Prove their is one.

    3. With zero proof? Yes.

    4. He directly addressed that issue!

    5. Die.

    6. This is not a thing.

    7. What about it?

    8. From life. It's awesome as-is.

    9. Yes.

    10. Fair enough. But not 6000 years ago.

    11. Wat.

    12. Read more, please.

    13. Maybe? Wtf?

    14. Creationism is a theory like you being made of my poop is a theory. Both were made up by someone.

    15. Another person who doesn't know what "theory" means.

    16. An actual interesting question! Hooray! I don't know though.

    17. Life is good enough as it is without needing to make up superficial "meaning."

    18. Because the earth is really big and bones are really small? Why have we found not a single thing to prove your story?

    19. Depends on what you believe about it.

    20. Some would argue that the lack of a creator makes it even more amazing.

    21. Good question! You can try to find out, or you can just rely on a story in a book and stop looking for answers.

    22. I haven't met your parents, but more of us didn't come from monkeys.

    If Bill Nye would respond to each question on his Facebook I would be soooo happy.

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    About number 18 Shlup: most remains never fossilize. Hell, even going for a walk in the woods and trying to find remains of any kind is difficult. Most break down or are consumed and destroyed by predators.

    And as for 21: no one should be allowed to ask this without answering where god came from. And if the words "I don't know," "he always existed," etc. leave their lips ask why it's okay for God to spontaneously exist but not a Universe. It's one of the biggest cop out questions they have because the same burden of explanation doesn't seem to apply to their silly bull trout.

    Fossil evidence is another cop out question from them as well to be honest. No matter how many intermediate evolutionary steps you find, there will always be more and they'll keep asking for it, ignoring the mountains of evidence accumulated in the mean time.

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