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That said, saying it's better than Star Trek I and V really isn't saying much.
Personally I think it's better than Nemesis and Insurrection as well - but then it has been years (at least a decade in fact) since I have seen either of those so I'll come back with my final report after I rewatch those in the next couple of weeks.
Yeah, but it generally doesn't take much to be better than films that flopped. Which is my point. Unless you're arguing this because people have been saying Into Darkness is worst than those films. They need a good firm smack across the head if that's the case.

You're a Data fan, aren't you? Don't watch Nemesis.