This links back into my point about wanting to grind for stuff. Linking the above to FF12 and the Danjuro Dagger. Most powerful dagger in the game, something stupidly low like 0.5% drop from a rare monster. I spent about 5 hours over 2 days trying to get this one weapon, and my god was it satisfying when I did. If I had to get it for any other reason bar my own desire to have all the weapons, I wouldn't have done it or quit the game at that point.
It comes back to if it's your choice to do the grind or not. I enjoy it when it's my own decision to do so.
Another good game for this was Deadly Premption. There was a "Tail this guy" mission where you weren't allowed out with 50-200m away from him. Any closer you'd spook him, and further away and he'd get away. So I stayed at around 60m, blasting my horn and police siren flashing my lights on and off. Apparently that didn't draw his attention, but getting 10m closer would.





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