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    All the more reason to play it later on after I finish it!

    What does New Game+ entail in this game? Do you keep all abilities and your level and stuff?

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    Technically it should be impossible to get all but four of them at this point and even then they are basically just two endings with a variation to them depending on how you reach Lavos by either fighting through the Black Omen, traveling to 1999 A.D. through the bucket at the End of Time, or using the Epoch to reach him in 1999. The other variation I'll elaborate on when you get a bit farther in.

    New Game+ allows you to keep all your equipment and items, all the techs you learned and your levels. The game also introduces a new gate to fight Lavos that is accessible from the beginning of the game to help you get the various endings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shion View Post
    Also I totally found purple cat

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    This is entirely the correct reaction.



    Anyway, on to the timey-wimey ball. Magus/Janus has been thrown through time portals twice. The first time, he was thrown from the Dark Ages forward to the Middle Ages, where he become ruler of the fiends through his incredible awesome magic power and long flowing hair. Then, after his fight with Lavos, he gets tossed back to the Dark Ages, where he's there as the Prophet.

    Child Janus should no longer be visible in this time period. He went back to 600 AD, and isn't in the Dark Ages anymore. If you see him while you're there exploring after that stuff has happened... Then something has gone wrong with your game.



    In terms of actual, intended game "main plot", you only have a couple of dungeons left. But there are about to be a bunch of sidequests that open up that will give you a ton of extra game time.
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    So I bring Jamanus to see kitty and kitty follows me around and hops excitedly

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    Then I head back to the Epoch

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    Apparently because of that thing

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    Then I see some scenes from the other worlds of them being affected or whatever.

    Anyways, then I begin my time travel sidequest quest. Thing is, I'm scared to check out most of it because I don't want to accidentally trigger moving on with the game. So I looked up a list of sidequests without looking at how to complete them to see how well I can do on my own.

    Today we are doing #1, Fiona something something!

    I remember her from 600 AD because there was never anything going on. But now, she is missing tress all around her house, her husband has returned, and she wants to plant a seedling but can't because apparently monsters.

    Then I go all over the world map looking for what her husband is talking about, only to find it about 3 feet away from her house.

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    (Manus looks like he's strutting down a catwalk in this pic)

    Which of course means boss fight

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    An annoyingly long one. And I swear that they can tell Magus is at like half of my level because he took a good 80% of the hits.

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    I switch around my characters to try them out after thinking for about 20 minutes on if I have to go find someone. Then I switch to Freddy (okay he was the first one I switched to) and ta da

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    So hearing the "centuries on end" I head to the future to find Freddy. Luckily, its the first future I try

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    (Also, Magus is totally standing right there)

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    F... Freddy?

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    Oh thank goodness. I was seriously scared I had done something wrong and lost Freddy forever

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    So turns out the nuns are totally cool with us removing Freddy and then we go camping!

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    Interesting conversation. I wonder who it is?

    Anyways so, they start wondering if someone is maybe making us witness these events for a reason. Marle then asks Lucca if there's any moment she might want to relive and Lucca gets uncomfortable.

    So everyone passes out and Lucca wakes up and doesn't molest her friends but instead goes for a walk.

    And finds a gate


    And ends up here

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    We see a note on the floor from Lucca presumably who is upset about her dad and all of his science stuff, which is odd coming from Lucca.

    Then I leave the room and find her mother getting herself caught in a conveyor belt.

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    At first I thought she was calling to me and was wondering why she didn't say anything is she saw me, but then I realized that the little girl is past Lucca and not like, Lucca's little sister or something.

    So good thing I saved because it took me 6 friggin tries to save her mother. If I fail (which I did, many times) her mother's legs are broken and Lucca takes an interest in science to avoid something like that happening again. If I am successful... well basically the same thing but with no broken legs.

    Then I head back through the portal and meet Freddy

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    Aww thank you Freddy

    And that's all for today!

    I hope the sidequests continue to give me some backstory!

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    Yeah, the Guru's are kind of an odd bit of writing in Chrono Trigger. None of them were their to get sucked into the Timegate when Lavos woke up due to The Prophets meddling, so it's somewhat of a mystery how they are still found every where else in time.

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    I'm sure Magus had them removed by timegate just to keep some of the events going the same and also because he didn't want them meddling in his revenge.

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    But Melchior was still there up until that point, he handed you the Red Knife just before Ocean Palace. And yet after Ocean Palace? Gone.

    We don't really get to see why he is no longer in that time period, since he was no longer sucked up by Time Gate at Lavos's awakening. And Magus clearly has no control over the time gates, nor an ability to predict where they will send you.

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    Lavos didn't cause the Gates, though. The Entity did. Maybe it wanted to make sure that the Gurus wound up where they were needed.

    Also, shion, you need to go visit Lucca's mom now that you saved her from losing her legs.


    I also now think that the smiley should be renamed :shion kitty:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyblade View Post
    I also now think that the smiley should be renamed :shion kitty:
    I am for this

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoCracker View Post
    But Melchior was still there up until that point, he handed you the Red Knife just before Ocean Palace. And yet after Ocean Palace? Gone.

    We don't really get to see why he is no longer in that time period, since he was no longer sucked up by Time Gate at Lavos's awakening. And Magus clearly has no control over the time gates, nor an ability to predict where they will send you.
    I remember reading some theories on it on Chrono Compendium. Two seem to explain this - Time Traveler's Immunity and Time Bastard. The first one says that the holder of the Gate Key is immune to the changes brought on by time travel, possibly extending it to those that are important to his quest, which is why they are still in touch with the original timeline's Magus and Gurus. But with Time Bastard, things get grim - one timeline can only support one version of a person, so these tied to Time Traveler's Immunity get to stay because they're important, and the new timeline versions cease to exist. So the Janus and Gurus from the new timeline don't exist anymore, neither does the Lucca who knows of a childhood without seeing her mom lose her legs.

    I mean, it's all just theories, but Chrono Cross kinda supports it with all the Time Devourer stuff.

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    So I head over to Lucca's house and meet her parents and her dad gives me some stuff.

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    Yay not in a wheelchair

    Anywas, sidequest 2 is called Ozzie something something, so I assume I need to head back to 600 AD AGAIN

    Then I have to find Ozzie which takes a while.

    But

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    He looks so adorable

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    Look, 2 Freddy's! Can I keep them both?

    I finally find Ozzie's hideout thing

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    He doesn't look happy to see me.

    Anyways, Magus tries to say hi and Ozzie is not having it. So of course I can't just leave the man in peace and I follow him in to his home.

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    Also, apparently Flea isn't dead.

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    Magus: Excuse me?

    And apparently Slash also isn't dead.

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    And some point he sends 2 monsters down after me but um

    They fall off the conveyor belts and die.

    Then Ozzie hides a treasure chest behind a blade to try and kill me (who even has this in their house?)

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    Not at the cost of my head I don't

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    I feel a bit bad for Ozzie now

    Then he does his whole ice shield thing so I hit the switch behind him and I fall.

    So I come back and then

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    Then Ozzie dies (I assume)

    Then I head back to the future to see what has happened and I find the monsters of Medina are no longer worshiping the rise of the monsters and they don't hate humans and things are super happy

    Also this:

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    Tune in next time for more sidequesting!

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    I actually feel bad for Ozzie VIII. Couldn't he become nice and happy too? It's like right generations later, Ozzie's descendants have to repent for his sins

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    Quote Originally Posted by The White Wizard of Fynn View Post
    I actually feel bad for Ozzie VIII. Couldn't he become nice and happy too? It's like right generations later, Ozzie's descendants have to repent for his sins
    Eh, it's like the reveal about Biff Tannen's family in Back to the Future III. Sometimes, just being a massive jerk is genetic.

    The Epoch is cooler than the DeLorean, though.



    Besides, Ozzie the VIII spent his whole life building off the status of his ancestor. That didn't change. He just now is building himself off the status of an ancestor who was killed by a kitty cat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyblade View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The White Wizard of Fynn View Post
    I actually feel bad for Ozzie VIII. Couldn't he become nice and happy too? It's like right generations later, Ozzie's descendants have to repent for his sins
    Eh, it's like the reveal about Biff Tannen's family in Back to the Future III. Sometimes, just being a massive jerk is genetic.

    The Epoch is cooler than the DeLorean, though.



    Besides, Ozzie the VIII spent his whole life building off the status of his ancestor. That didn't change. He just now is building himself off the status of an ancestor who was killed by a kitty cat.
    But I hated that too!

    Being a jerk is so not genetic.

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    Okay so the next sidequest is in future land and I cheated and looked up where it was because I hate future land and I don't want to be here any longer than necessary.

    I kind of wish I had kept the guide up because my goodness this area was a pain in the butt to figure out

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    So there's this robot who is not for some humans (racist)

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    She then tells me the planet would be much better off without humans and it hurts my feels

    Then I find some humans on a conveyor belt (I think?) I only caught it out of the corner of my eye because my cat has bad timing for sticking hi butt in my face.

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    To the Mother Brain!

    After ridiculously long trying to figure out what the heck I'm doing

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    It's really hurtful when you say things like that, Mother Brain

    So I continue on my way and meet Lady Freddy

    Freddette, if you will.

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    Or that. Not as cool as Freddette, but whatever

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    P... pretend

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    See, I told you guys his name was Freddy

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    So then I fight Freddette mano-a-mano. Or robot-a-roboto?

    And I win

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    Then she's talking about how she lost her memory and stuff

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    Lucca is so kind

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    So I continue on my way sadly with Fredette having died.

    Her ribbon was so cute Her and Freddy could have made mini-Freddies. Fred Jr.'s

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    This is really starting to hurt my feelings and I don't appreciate your tone

    So I meet Mother Brain and she's pretty foxy.

    More importantly, she wants to make Freddy all evil badbad but Freddy is better than that!

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    And then we win and Freddy does some computer stuffs

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    Poor Freddy. This was a sad sidequest.

    Will the next one be happier? Tune in next time and find out!

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