X-2 is the best Final Fantasy game.

[Jiro]

Nice try.

Jiro! How dare you speak to me like that?! I'm not going to excavate your overwritten post, as I don't have the time, but i will address some of your obnoxious, condescending comments. You've just turned LOVE into HATE.

So, just as your initial argument, you plan on doing no actual work and simply rely on blanket statements without proof. I applaud your commitment, and welcome back.

Firstly, don't correct my punctuation, spelling, style, or any other facet of writing. This isn't an academic essay, it's a fracking forum dedicated to Final Fantasy discussion.

There is no distinction between form and content. You want to make an argument? Make sure it's understandable and justifiable. You did not do this. It doesn't matter if it is an essay or a post on a Final Fantasy forum. You come in here, guns blazing with your statement, and then fail to actually say anything of substance. That's inviting criticism.

If you want a job proofreading, go into the real world and look for one.

I think you'll find I am a practising editor

I personally wouldn't hire you.

Well that's your loss. I think I've demonstrated that my editing skills are immensely necessary for you.

Anyone with this habit immediately incurs my wrath. because it gives the impression that you want to pick people apart for the sake of it. Treat your anger disorder, preferably AWAY from the keyboard.

If you had read my post, you would have understood why I was aggressive. I am pleasantly surprised at your return. But I also value clarity and accuracy. That's why I'm a writer and editor. You should probably come up with better insults.

Next, about my original post...I don't understand why in the hell you are treating my thread as if it's the devil's thesis?

I'm treating it like a completely unfounded and misdirected failure of an argument. If you want to be the devil, by all means. I suspect he would construct a better argument, though, given that he successfully tempted Adam and Eve.

Even the most deranged academic supervisor wouldn't stoop to that kind of babyish pedantry.

They would if they were worth a damn.

I don't know what you were expecting me to qualify my personal opinion with...

Evidence. Justification. Anything. You gave an opinion but wouldn't even explain why you hold the opinion. I think you're a moron, and I think this because you have absolutely no ability to construct a case. See how easy it can be?

you don't like my line of reasoning, and feel entitled to attack me? Do you feel more intelligent? You shouldn't.

I didn't need to attack you to feel more intelligent. I felt that by reading what you wrote and laughing at the flaws, as I suspect everyone else in the thread did. Your line of reasoning was absolute horsetrout. That doesn't justify my attack, of course; one should not resort to ad hominem. But, again, it was with purpose, which you would have understood if you actually read and comprehended my post.

Yes, I think Yuna was a martyr in FFX. I though she subtly manipulated those around her for attention, took her guardians for granted, and was hungry for the glory of liberating Spira...a glory which is eventually realized, and which she continues to revel in the wake of FFX2s events.

This is a viable point. I do not agree, but I could see how you could interpret it in such a fashion. I offer, instead, that Seymour is the character who exhibits these traits; Yuna attempts to become a martyr out of selflessness, while Seymour attempts the same out of greed and pride.

One doesn't simply go from being a High Summoner to a Pop Star without some form of craving for public approval.

There are other reasons people become musicians. Like sharing a powerful message to the masses, as Yuna does in the Thunder Plains.

She's flaky and uncaring and even admits in FFX-2 Last mission that she probably never was friends with Rikku and Paine in the first place.

Remind me which game you are arguing for again?

She was just 'using' them to fill the void left by Tidus' death.

As I expect many people do after losing someone close to them.

I preferred FFX-2 because it took itself less seriously and had fun elements to it.

Fair enough. I like these elements. This is why Final Fantasy X-2 is sorely underrated, in my opinion.

if you are looking for scientific evidence or references to qualify that, then you really have a warped way of looking at things. The best Final Fantasy game is different for everyone...

I don't need science. I wanted examples. You were making claims that were not widely accepted and you didn't provide evidence to support them. You appreciate the light-hearted aspects of X-2 in comparison to X; the fact that X-2 is less serious in sensibilities is obvious and doesn't need explanation. Saying that Yuna is selfish in Final Fantasy X is as close to being objectively wrong as possible, so you need to explain this, otherwise you sound like a raving lunatic.

Now you better get the frack away from me, or I'll change into the berserker dressphere and use beserk and maul you!!!!!!

Violence is never the answer.

PS. What's with the random Pauline Hanson references?

A few weeks ago I attended a '90s themed party. One of the guests dressed up as Pauline Pantsdown, a hilarious parody of Australian politician and gaff-master Pauline Hanson. She is also famed for making completely bonkers blanket statements; the reference seemed appropriate.

I apologise for the aggression exhibited in my original response, because as I mentioned before, it was unfounded, but you did not seem like the type of account that would return. I understand wholly that if you leave the Eyes on Final Fantasy Forms Fantasy Forum Experience (that one's for you, Alive-Man ) that it will most likely be entirely my fault, and that will stain my record of being welcoming and inviting to newbies. It would be inappropriate of me to justify why I felt like being a complete and utter prick, so I will not attempt to do so. I will, however, point out that my aggression is comparable to your blasé hatred of Final Fantasy X and lack of substantiated evidence in your original post. We should all expect to have our thoughts and opinions challenged when we put them out in public discourse.