Quote Originally Posted by DK View Post
4-4-2 is rubbish on football manager. 4-2-3-1 or christmas tree all day son.
Depends on the version of FM you're playing, but I do like 4-2-3-1 with wingbacks instead of fullbacks. 4-4-2 still the formation that has worked for me the best over a long time, though (FM2012).
lonny bob's attempt to turn "i've seen him play loads so he is this role" into the football threads "I'm not racist i've got a black friend" is endearing. I've never watched a full 90 minutes of Lionel Messi, does this mean I am mistaken in my belief that he is not a target man?
Are we comparing the average bloke's knowledge of Herrera to the average bloke's knowledge of Messi now? xD Please. You're no more knowledgeable of Herrera than the next bloke. "He's a midfielder, right?" "Played for that one Spanish side." "Spanish, not very stocky, so he's not very defensive." C'mon, out with your information before you say "oh, he's not..."

Of course, I don't fall into the belief that you need a box to box midfielder to have a successful 4-4-2 regardless. United have won a few league titles since we lost Keane, and even then Keane was never a box to box midfielder in his closing seasons at Old Trafford. Who were the box to box midfielders when we were off winning titles with a 4-4-2 formation, if Herrera is not one?

In the end, it's a case of finding the right players with the right balance and the right manager to make good use of 'em. Box to box midfielders can really improve any formation, sure, but if you guys don't think Herrera is a box to box midfielder then I suppose United haven't had one for years (but have been very successful despite it).