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    In JRPGs, sure, you always want to have that "complete" playthrough.

    In The Elder Scrolls, no way. 1) it's unreasonable and 2) the world is so big, in part, so that you can have completely different playthroughs and stories for everytime you create a new character.
    Guess I've been playing TES wrong.
    Exactly. What the heck are you talking about, Bolivar? The world is so big so you can spend 150-200 hours combing every inch of it in a single playthrough.

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    In JRPGs, sure, you always want to have that "complete" playthrough.

    In The Elder Scrolls, no way. 1) it's unreasonable and 2) the world is so big, in part, so that you can have completely different playthroughs and stories for everytime you create a new character.
    Guess I've been playing TES wrong.
    Exactly. What the heck are you talking about, Bolivar? The world is so big so you can spend 150-200 hours combing every inch of it in a single playthrough.
    Only 200? I spend 300 per play through (game time, so not including resets) on most RPGs I get heavily invested in.
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    In JRPGs, sure, you always want to have that "complete" playthrough.

    In The Elder Scrolls, no way. 1) it's unreasonable and 2) the world is so big, in part, so that you can have completely different playthroughs and stories for everytime you create a new character.
    Guess I've been playing TES wrong.
    Exactly. What the heck are you talking about, Bolivar? The world is so big so you can spend 150-200 hours combing every inch of it in a single playthrough.
    Only 200? I spend 300 per play through (game time, so not including resets) on most RPGs I get heavily invested in.
    I don't understand this. I did literally everything that can be done on Skyrim in 150 hours, and it's the biggest game I've ever played. What on earth do you do for 300 hours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by metagloria View Post
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    In JRPGs, sure, you always want to have that "complete" playthrough.

    In The Elder Scrolls, no way. 1) it's unreasonable and 2) the world is so big, in part, so that you can have completely different playthroughs and stories for everytime you create a new character.
    Guess I've been playing TES wrong.
    Exactly. What the heck are you talking about, Bolivar? The world is so big so you can spend 150-200 hours combing every inch of it in a single playthrough.
    Only 200? I spend 300 per play through (game time, so not including resets) on most RPGs I get heavily invested in.
    I don't understand this. I did literally everything that can be done on Skyrim in 150 hours, and it's the biggest game I've ever played. What on earth do you do for 300 hours?
    I only played about an hour of Skyrim. I actually kind of hated it. I was talking most games in general. Currently I'm playing through Fire Emblem Awakening on Lunatic mode, and I have spent well over 200 hours just grinding stats, skills, Support conversations, etcetera. In a game that basically consists of 35 battles each about an hour long, tops (and Chrom has not yet married in my current play through). In FFVII I grind out a Master Materia set for each character, and acquire all Limits, etcetera. In Persona 3 I nabbed an Omnipotent Orb for each party member, including Shinjiro (which was probably a hundred hours of resets right there), and fused a "perfect" version of every Persona in the Compendium.

    In RPGs, I do everything. 200 hours would be one like FFXII that I got bored with and never finished.

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    In JRPGs, sure, you always want to have that "complete" playthrough.

    In The Elder Scrolls, no way. 1) it's unreasonable and 2) the world is so big, in part, so that you can have completely different playthroughs and stories for everytime you create a new character.
    Guess I've been playing TES wrong.
    Exactly. What the heck are you talking about, Bolivar? The world is so big so you can spend 150-200 hours combing every inch of it in a single playthrough.
    Only 200? I spend 300 per play through (game time, so not including resets) on most RPGs I get heavily invested in.
    I don't understand this. I did literally everything that can be done on Skyrim in 150 hours, and it's the biggest game I've ever played. What on earth do you do for 300 hours?
    I only played about an hour of Skyrim. I actually kind of hated it. I was talking most games in general. Currently I'm playing through Fire Emblem Awakening on Lunatic mode, and I have spent well over 200 hours just grinding stats, skills, Support conversations, etcetera. In a game that basically consists of 35 battles each about an hour long, tops (and Chrom has not yet married in my current play through). In FFVII I grind out a Master Materia set for each character, and acquire all Limits, etcetera. In Persona 3 I nabbed an Omnipotent Orb for each party member, including Shinjiro (which was probably a hundred hours of resets right there), and fused a "perfect" version of every Persona in the Compendium.

    In RPGs, I do everything. 200 hours would be one like FFXII that I got bored with and never finished.
    I grind stats in the Gelnika and get three sets of Master Materia in VII and I've never topped 96 hours. Similarly, I've Order of Ambrosia'd XII twice and never topped ~120 hours.

    But, nonetheless, I respect your dedication to grinding, because I play the same way. I must just do so more efficiently and/or less dedicatedly than you.

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    I never thought of the world maps as being to scale, so flying around them in a matter of seconds never bothered me. Also, I never expect the game to have realtime-time either.
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    In JRPGs, sure, you always want to have that "complete" playthrough.

    In The Elder Scrolls, no way. 1) it's unreasonable and 2) the world is so big, in part, so that you can have completely different playthroughs and stories for everytime you create a new character.
    Guess I've been playing TES wrong.
    Exactly. What the heck are you talking about, Bolivar? The world is so big so you can spend 150-200 hours combing every inch of it in a single playthrough.
    Only 200? I spend 300 per play through (game time, so not including resets) on most RPGs I get heavily invested in.
    I don't understand this. I did literally everything that can be done on Skyrim in 150 hours, and it's the biggest game I've ever played. What on earth do you do for 300 hours?
    I only played about an hour of Skyrim. I actually kind of hated it. I was talking most games in general. Currently I'm playing through Fire Emblem Awakening on Lunatic mode, and I have spent well over 200 hours just grinding stats, skills, Support conversations, etcetera. In a game that basically consists of 35 battles each about an hour long, tops (and Chrom has not yet married in my current play through). In FFVII I grind out a Master Materia set for each character, and acquire all Limits, etcetera. In Persona 3 I nabbed an Omnipotent Orb for each party member, including Shinjiro (which was probably a hundred hours of resets right there), and fused a "perfect" version of every Persona in the Compendium.

    In RPGs, I do everything. 200 hours would be one like FFXII that I got bored with and never finished.
    I grind stats in the Gelnika and get three sets of Master Materia in VII and I've never topped 96 hours. Similarly, I've Order of Ambrosia'd XII twice and never topped ~120 hours.

    But, nonetheless, I respect your dedication to grinding, because I play the same way. I must just do so more efficiently and/or less dedicatedly than you.
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    I don't understand this. I did literally everything that can be done on Skyrim in 150 hours, and it's the biggest game I've ever played.
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    I prefer seeing the whole world, but I'm not bothered with the alternative if the story is good. I prefer smaller worlds to the more vast open-worlds we get in RPGs like Skyrim, to tell you the truth. I enjoy a lot of the overhead maps from various Final Fantasy games and were never bothered by their size. I'm sure some planets in the galaxy would be small too. Dwarf planets!

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