Seven Deadly Sins of RPGs

[Wolf Kanno]

What are seven design.story, character, or pet peeves about RPGs that are deal breakers for you?

[blackmage_nuke]

Enemies Leveling with the Party that punishes grinding without you knowing unless you look it up
Long battle animations that cant be skipped or shortened
Characters who leave for extended periods and are significantly weeker than the rest of the party when they return

I cant think of 7

Therey not really "deal breakers" though, just annoyances. The only way for a game to stop me from playing is by being boring.

[Rez09]

1) Not letting me remap controls. I have my buttons, and my buttons are not your buttons. My ways are not your ways, and there shall be to you many strange mappings.

2) Counting on nostalgia or affinity. Your game is trying to harken back to something nostalgic. Great. Now make it good and maybe I'll appreciate it.

3) Giving me a main character who isn't the main character. If my ass is going to be drug around for 15+ hours by your damn plot, at least have me be the central to it.

4) (Poorly written) Ditsy, stupid, 'childish', or 'innocent' characters. If I have to wonder how these characters managed to survive in your world, you should have as well.

5) Telling me person 'x' is powerful. If you are lazy enough to simply tell me this then you are also lazy enough to throw an unwinnable battle at me next time I fight them, and I'm just lazy enough to check out of you story right about now.

6) Flawed combat/controls. I like your combat system, I really do, especially that part on the left where it doesn't function like it should and I just paid for it.

7) I'll think of a seventh later . . .

[Skyblade]

I'll add in a seventh for you:

Thou shalt have at least one New Game+ option.

[Pumpkin]

1) Not having a difficulty setting IF the game is difficult. If your game is too hard, I WILL stop playing, and there will be so much wasted effort
2) Making bland characters. Please make likeable characters. They are what help get me invested in the story
3) Having really cheap plot twists. Don't build up some big thing, get me all intense in to it, and then use some cheap cop out for what it really is
4) Not having any sidequests. Sidequests are great for when I want to play the game but I'm not ready to continue the story or just need a break from it
5) Having way overly sexualized characters for EVERY character. I can forgive it some, but if my whole party is giant breasted women in bikinis who are awkwardly blushing and standing in suggestive poses all the time I will throw that game out
6) Not having any magic. I want magic in my RPG's. I don't care if its only certain characters who can use it, if its everyone, if you buy it, if you learn it as you level up, whatever, just have magic
7) Make it fun. There have sadly been a few RPG's I've had to read the transcript for because the story was great, but the game felt like a pain to play. Either the battle system was too complicated, or it was just boring. Make it a joy to play

[Skyblade]

4) Not having any sidequests. Sidequests are great for when I want to play the game but I'm not ready to continue the story or just need a break from it

Truth.

5) Having way overly sexualized characters for EVERY character. I can forgive it some, but if my whole party is giant breasted women in bikinis who are awkwardly blushing and standing in suggestive poses all the time I will throw that game out

What if all the characters are overly sexualized, but there are plenty of overly sexualized men to go along with the ladies?

7) Make it fun. There have sadly been a few RPG's I've had to read the transcript for because the story was great, but the game felt like a pain to play. Either the battle system was too complicated, or it was just boring. Make it a joy to play

This was the case with Knights of the Old Republic for me. Fortunately, you can cheat in that game.

[Fynn]

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5) Having way overly sexualized characters for EVERY character. I can forgive it some, but if my whole party is giant breasted women in bikinis who are awkwardly blushing and standing in suggestive poses all the time I will throw that game out

What if all the characters are overly sexualized, but there are plenty of overly sexualized men to go along with the ladies?

I was gonna ask the same thing. I've recently beaten Vagrant Story, where the ladies are a bit sexualities but that's nothing compared to Ashley's assless chaps and Sydney's lack of shirt and dangerously low pants. Everyone is basically wearing bondage hear, especially the men. But I still love the game and how original the character designs are.

[Pumpkin]

Women or men. I used the example of women because its more common but I said overly sexualized characters not overly sexualized female characters. I guess enough people like it or don't care, but it just lessens the experience for me.

Like I said, its not all the time. Play Suikoden (any of them) but let's take V for example. Kisara has gigantic boobies and a very low cut top and Jeane is just... look it up if you haven't played Suikoden. But they also have women who are modestly dressed, normally dressed, and everything in between. I'm fine with that because let's face it, some people just dress sexier than others and that's okay. It's just when its all the time, for no reason, and doesn't even fit the character or the climate I just can't stand it.

[Jessweeee♪]

Impractical female armor. Like if everyone's armor is stupid or just normal clothes then ok. But this sort of thing nags at me:

http://www.collegehumor.com/video/65...le-armor-sucks

[Skyblade]

Impractical female armor. Like if everyone's armor is stupid or just normal clothes then ok. But this sort of thing nags at me:

http://www.collegehumor.com/video/65...le-armor-sucks

All video game armor is impractical, but some are more impractical than others.

[magemasher]

FF8 where everyone in the party were in the orphanage as kids but they all forget until near the end of the game. Maybe I missed something but that weak point in the story really bugged me.

Also when the enemies for some reason gets an extra round of turns in battle, the X remaster has game over'd me a few times with this.

[Rez09]

Play Suikoden (any of them) but let's take V for example. Kisara has gigantic boobies and a very low cut top and Jeane is just... look it up if you haven't played Suikoden. But they also have women who are modestly dressed, normally dressed, and everything in between.

I especially appreciate how awesome some of those normally dressed ladies, like Lyon, Cathari, and Hazuki, are in combat. Belcoot is gonna have a hell of a fight after that war ends. <_<

[theundeadhero]

When they decide the best music to go with the game, most commonly in combat, is high-pitched speed metal. Unless the game has other points that are really good I'm likely to turn it after two or three fights because it's annoying and doesn't fit in.

[Skyblade]

When they decide the best music to go with the game, most commonly in combat, is high-pitched speed metal. Unless the game has other points that are really good I'm likely to turn it after two or three fights because it's annoying and doesn't fit in.

Examples?

[Mercen-X]

Chaos Wars had an annoying music system wherein it continued to change depending on which characters' turn it was. So if you were actually playing rather quickly, you'd have a bunch of jarring musical shifts that in no way fit each others' moods. WTF were they thinking?