Marvel's Civil War: Would you side with Iron Man or Captain America?

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

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I'm not sure how the upcoming movie will spin it, but here's what I understand based on recently reading issues of Ms. Marvel that tie in with the Civil War story arc:

After a terrible accident involving the super hero team New Warriors results in the death of hundreds of school children, the long debated Super Hero Registration Act is finally made law.

Heroes must register their identities with the government and be trained as proper law enforcement officers. Failure to register is a crime punishable by incarceration.

Heroes have divided into two camps - those allied with Iron Man, who supports the law, and those who follow Captain America, who has moved underground to fight back against a government that has turned its back on him.

Iron Man argued that the changing political landscape meant that resisting the law was pointless, and that it is reasonable for heroes to have proper training and oversight, whereas Captain America argued that heroes required secrecy in order to protect aspects of their 'normal' life, such as spouses and children, and to allow them to act in whatever means necessary against threats which the ordinary emergency services couldn't cope with.

I lean more towards Captain America's view points. How about you?

[Pike]

I side with the "Civil War is terrible" viewpoint

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

Terrible like "this writing/premise sucks" or terrible like "omg my beloved characters are fighting why is this my life"?

[Slothy]

Considering Iron Man ended up deleting his own brain to prevent Norman Osborn from getting the last copy of the list of registered super heroes I'm going to have to say that Cap had a point about secrecy. Though heroes also needed training when possible. It's almost like both had a point and they were forced into a conflict that seemed a bit... forced.

[Pike]

Terrible like "this writing/premise sucks" or terrible like "omg my beloved characters are fighting why is this my life"?

Terrible like "the original Civil War comics were terrible." I don't care about characters fighting, heck I would pay a full movie ticket price to watch two hours of Iron Man vs. Cap. Unfortunately I'm sure they'll stuff it full of obnoxious Civil War story stuff.

[Old Manus]

Why do superheroes have to solve everything with violence?

[Psychotic]

The law is stupid but smurf me if I'm ever supporting anyone but Tony Stark.

[Freya]

I've always agreed with cap on this one. I'm excited to see how they play it.

[Shorty]

Cap til the end.

Not generally a Marvel fan, but I'm excited to see this storyline manifest.

[Scotty_ffgamer]

I'm actually reading through all of the Civil War stuff now just because. Cap all the way.

[Pike]

The law is stupid but smurf me if I'm ever supporting anyone but Tony Stark.

This.

Tony Stark could support flying around the world and personally punching every single person in the face and I would be okay with it.

[Spuuky]

That's funny, I have no opinion except that Tony Stark is always wrong.

[Pike]

I don't care if he's wrong or right so much as I care that he has a sexy robot suit.

[Madame Adequate]

Civil War is an abomination and everything about it is dumb as trout.

This is how dumb it is: The Pro-Registration side employs Green Goblin, Venom, and others. To perform officially sanctioned government work. Not in some sort of vaguely clever "We need bad guys to stop someone even worse" way, they just... hire them.

Meanwhile, they throw dedicated and proven superheroes who have an objection to either the principle or implementation of registration into the Negative Zone with no due process, no lawyers, no trial, no appeals, nothing.

But more than anything else, there was a total failure of communication between all the different writers. Everyone had their own ideas about what the arguments were and who was in the right, which could have been effective if it had been done well, but it happened due to sheer incompetence on the part of Joe Quesada.

Oh speaking of him, remember when he explicitly said Spidey's revealing his identity would not be undone through some "magic retcon" (exact words) and then in One More Day (Which is atrocious for plenty of other reasons), literal magic was used to undo the revelation and make everyone forget? Yeah that happened.

Plus of course one of the main viewpoint characters who we are supposed to feel has her head screwed on right, delivers to Cap what is portrayed as a huge verbal smackdown that shows him just how out-of-touch with Modern America he is. Because he doesn't watch NASCAR, use MySpace, or vote on American Idol. Has swears, but this is how that vapid idiot should have been treated.

And the details of the Registration Act varied according to different writers, because there was apparently no brief or anything.

And SHIELD tried to arrest Cap before the law was even signed into law. Putting aside that generally a law doesn't get enforced with SWAT teams and stuff at 12:01 AM the day it comes into force, especially if it involves registration, because you give people time to comply with it. It can be done, but it's widely considered bad form and a lot of court cases would be launched because how can you register when you get arrested before the registration centers open? Oh but nevermind because, of course, the law simply doesn't apply here.

Oh and remember when Stark had Black Panther's wife attacked for refusing to sign, even though she, as wife of a foreign chief of state, would almost certainly have diplomatic immunity, to say nothing of the fact that pissing off Wakanda would be almost as dumb as pissing off Atlantis in the DC-verse.

[Calliope]

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