I haven't read every post and can't respond properly anyway because I'm heading into the Christmas madness and am posting on my phone, but I can see now that the issue with you, at least, Daniel, is a genuine complete not understanding what "se ualized" means. That's fine; I will be happy to give you examples and help clarify the difference. First it would help if you would take your list of male FF examples and explain how they fit the definition of sexualized.