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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoCracker View Post
    ...Yeah, I'm just going to cover a few basic things here.

    Firstly, just a general response to what you say on her article.

    The point of the article wasn't to actively promote other Body Types in gaming. The point was to speak out against people who are constantly bashing games because of characters with big boobs. At no point does she say that other types are not welcome, she is simply countering people who keep saying that the big boobs are not welcome. (Yeah, in this very thread we have someone saying they are going to write a letter to square showing their disapproval of Cid's attire, and no one is saying this is a bad thing. So yeah, there are people saying the boobs aren't welcome, and none of you are exactly saying you disagree with that.)
    I'm not saying she said other body types are not welcome. The leg she uses to stand on about why we should keep large-breasted characters is "to include more body types". She says this several times in her article, yet it does not accurately reflect her argument because she is concerned about disproportionately-designed female characters to keep their large breasts, not to be more inclusive of realistic body types that result in the large breasts mentioned.

    Anita begins a blog called Tropes vs. Women in Video Games, which examined tropes that she believes reinforce damaging stereotypes about women. Essentially, this is a movement to break away from the female character stereotypes that we all know too well.

    She is attacked because of this.
    No. Firstly, I'm going to ignore Troll's for purpose of this repsonse. (Yeah, the trolls are smurfing troutty, but everyone with any semblance of clout on the internet gets those in droves.) People dislike Anita because of how nonsensical her statements are. You need only look at her dissection of hit man to realize this. The game penalizes you for killing innocents (You know, like all those strippers you see being killed in the video she that she claims the game in question encourages you to kill) to see how, at best, disingenuous she is being in her critique.
    She is attacked because she wishes to change the way women are misogynistically portrayed in video games by those who disagree with her and those who do not want to include measures that support feminist ideals in their games. My statement is correct.

    She is attacked because men want those female characters to remain the same; they want their games to remain untouched.
    I hope you have some way to back this claim up.
    Sure. Read all you like. People making threats because the women seeking to change the movement translates to gamers wanting their games to be untouched by feminist ideals like the one Anita promotes. This means she is attacked because people want those female characters to remain the same.

    She was forced to vacate her home due to the threats she received, and just recently had to abandon a conference at the University of Utah due to threats of gun violence.
    I'll give you the former, cause that's just plain troutty. Note though, it takes ONE person to do this. But the latter is quite frankly silly. Unless you believe the official reports were full of trout, both state and federal investigations showed the threats to have no credibility what so ever. Regardless, Campus Security was still set to be increased during the event. There is a discrepancy between them saying they were in contact with Anita the whole time, and Anita saying she learned only once she arrived, but point in case this looked as if it were little more then some jack ass high schooler calling in a fake bomb threat to get school canceled for a day. Threats like this happen all the time. Hell, they've happened to Marilyn Manson multiple times from people trying to get his shows canceled cause they felt he was to edgy.
    Sorry, but that's a bunch of bulltrout. Someone says that they are going to shoot up a school if a certain individual speaks there, and you want to say that such a threat wasn't credible? Where do you stand as an authority on whether or not a shooting threat should be taken seriously or not? Furthermore, campus security means nothing when a shooting threat has been made and campus authorities say that they will continue to allow guns on campus and in the auditorium. It means nothing.

    Does it matter if ONE person or if thousands sent her threats of rape and violence to her home? So smurfing what if it was one person? I hardly believe it would be one in any case because thousands of people did it, but it shouldn't matter if it was one or a thousand; what matters is that it happened. It's really quite offensive that you shake that off in an, "oh, a rape/murder threat from one person isn't a big deal" sort of tone. Why was that important to note at all?
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