Wolf Kanno's Bottom Ten JRPGs.

[Wolf Kanno]

Yeah the graphics weren't too bad. Though some of the designs from Lufia 1 are still frigging awesome. Funny enough I feel Lufia 2 might have the cheesiest graphics of all the games though the GBC one gives it a run for its money.

[Scotty_ffgamer]

I really do want to play the first two Lufia games someday.

[Fynn]

Yeah the graphics weren't too bad. Though some of the designs from Lufia 1 are still frigging awesome. Funny enough I feel Lufia 2 might have the cheesiest graphics of all the games though the GBC one gives it a run for its money.

I remember those Lufia 2 graphics. They were so '80s!

That reminds me that I need to get back to that LP someday

[Pumpkin]

Yeah the graphics weren't too bad. Though some of the designs from Lufia 1 are still frigging awesome. Funny enough I feel Lufia 2 might have the cheesiest graphics of all the games though the GBC one gives it a run for its money.

I remember those Lufia 2 graphics. They were so '80s!

That reminds me that I need to get back to that LP someday

YEAH

[Wolf Kanno]

Yeah the graphics are really weird with the tile sets for building and towns looking pretty FFV/VI whereas the sprites and non-major enemies always looked dorkishly cartooney like a cross between DQ, Earthbound, and FFV.

[Rin Heartilly]

Holy crow, I actually own almost every game on this list :O

I still love Valkyria Chronicles though! The gameplay was fun and I felt bad for Selvaria

Crisis core was good too (minus Genesis and the fact that I couldn't grind levels the way I wanted because of those slots grr) but there was a lot of feels shed for Zack at the end. I basically love Crisis core for Zack alone. That's right, smurf you Cloud, Zack is 100x better than you in every aspect. Yeah. I went there.

[Loony BoB]

Sorry I haven't updated. I wrote up something last night and I took so long the page froze and I had to refresh and lost everything. I'll try to re-type it later this weekend.

Restore Auto-Saved Content ftw. You could have got it all back...

Yeah, these types of threads are amusing. I did have the funness of discovering this little gem while hunting down images for my posts.

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51. The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind - PC, 2002
52. Batman: Arkham City - PS3, 2011
53. Alundra - PSX, 1997
54. Grandia II - PS2, 2000
55. EoFF: Sick Irony - PC, 2000
56. Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced - GBA, 2003
57. Crysis - PC, 2007
58. Dune - PC, 1992
59. Mario Kart 64 - N64, 1996
60. Worms (series) - PC, 1995-2003
61. Final Fantasy XII - PS2, 2006
62. Resistance: Fall of Man - PS3, 2006
63. Burnout Paradise - PS3, 2008
64. inFamous - PS3, 2008
65. UFO: Enemy Unknown - PC, 1994
66. Deus Ex: Human Revolution - PS3, 2012
67. Wipeout HD - PS3, 2008
68. SimCity (series) - PC, 1989-2003
69. Streets of Rage (series) - SMD, 1991-1994
70. Star Control - PC, 1990
71. Gothic II - PC, 2002
72. Lost Odyssey - 360, 2007
73. Crash Bandicoot (Naughty dog series) - PSX, 1996-1998
74. Civilization II - PC, 1996
75. Squarez Deluxe! - PC, 1998
76. Need For Speed III: Hot Pursuit - PSX, 1998
77. Destruction Derby - PSX, 1995
78. Syndicate - PC, 1993
79. Army of Two: The 40th Day - PS3, 2010
80. Jump 'n Bump - PC, 1998
81. Wolfenstein 3D - PC, 1992
82. Duke Nukem - PC, 1991
83. Tomb Raider (2013) - PS3, 2013
84. Final Fantasy IX - PSX, 2000
85. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 - SMD, 1992
86. Jetpack - PC, 1993
87. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion - PC, 2006

[Polnareff]

I seriously thought that Ruins of Lore was the second best game in the series. I wish I could find a legit copy of it.

I didn't notice until Rin pointed it out that Valkyria Chronicles was on the list.

VC was a weird game for me. I appreciated the battle system but there was so little variety that you basically did the same thing over and over for the whole game. I loved the graphics though.

In this case, I actually prefer VC2 for PSP, since the stages are smaller and there seemed to be more variety.

[Wolf Kanno]

I seriously thought that Ruins of Lore was the second best game in the series. I wish I could find a legit copy of it.

I felt it was a lost opportunity and the game kind of felt more like other RPGs of the time than the Lufia series I grew up with. Frankly, Lufia's world is only interesting because of the whole Sinistral/Dual Blade dynamic so dropping it for a plot that sounds like the sea of other JRPGs out there was not exactly exciting for me. The puzzles were also not as exciting and while I liked the Pokemon monster catching aspect, I just felt the Job System was again, a bit too straight forward and borrowed from better games whereas I felt Lufia 2 and The Legend Returns had far more interesting and original customization systems. I may have liked the game a bit better had it not been given the Lufia title, but I also feel it would have been 10x more forgettable because nothing about the game really stands out from its peers.

I didn't notice until Rin pointed it out that Valkyria Chronicles was on the list.

VC was a weird game for me. I appreciated the battle system but there was so little variety that you basically did the same thing over and over for the whole game. I loved the graphics though.

In this case, I actually prefer VC2 for PSP, since the stages are smaller and there seemed to be more variety.

Funny enough, when I was looking up a few things on the game when I was doing the write up, I came to the conclusion I may have actually enjoyed the sequels a bit better, specifically VCIII, which sounds more like the game I was kind of expecting VC to be.

[Spuuky]

Lufia 1 and 2 are so great. I haven't played this game, though.

[Wolf Kanno]

Lufia 1 and 2 are so great. I haven't played this game, though.

Yeah, I really enjoyed the first two. Maybe I went into this game with high expectations and felt disappointed but I just really couldn't get into it. Check it out though, like Polnareff, you may get something out of it that I couldn't.

[Polnareff]

My thing with Ruins of Lore is that is actually did remind me of the second game, just pared down a bit with the puzzles. Lufia 1 ranks third for me, and the GB game ranks dead last. Not gonna stop me from buying the GBC game on the eShop though.

I never played VC3. I did get a lot farther in VC2 than I ever did in VC1, though. The only thing that stopped me from playing it again was losing my save file.....

[Egami]

Damn, been years since i last visited this forum!

Anyway, really cool thread so far Wolf, haven't played most of the titles but I agree with your points about Crisis Core. VII is my favorite FF game and one of my favorite games ever but I didn't like Crisis Core at all, specially it's disregard for the canon and Genesis who has one of the most cringe worthy dialogue/characterisation I have ever seen in a video game. Sadly this style has very much become the norm in modern FF titles; where the dialogue is mostly about melodramatic statements and vague metaphors which come off as contrived and do nothing to flesh out a character or advance the plot but rather end up making the characters feel stereotypical and unrelatable. This scene from the game very much embodies everything that is wrong with it and a great part of modern FF titles, all style and cool flashy graphics with no substance or relevance starting characters acting/talking in ways that no human person acts like (which ends up making them unrelatable):



For my part, when it comes to the FFVII compilation I am of the opinion that it shouldn't have been made, just like The Matrix sequels. The original game just like the original movie was complete as is, self-contained and having no need for sequels or prequels.

Looking forward to the rest of the list, not really troubled by any of the choices so far

[Pete for President]

Damn, been years since i last visited this forum!

Anyway, really cool thread so far Wolf, haven't played most of the titles but I agree with your points about Crisis Core. VII is my favorite FF game and one of my favorite games ever but I didn't like Crisis Core at all, specially it's disregard for the canon and Genesis who has one of the most cringe worthy dialogue/characterisation I have ever seen in a video game. Sadly this style has very much become the norm in modern FF titles; where the dialogue is mostly about melodramatic statements and vague metaphors which come off as contrived and do nothing to flesh out a character or advance the plot but rather end up making the characters feel stereotypical and unrelatable. This scene from the game very much embodies everything that is wrong with it and a great part of modern FF titles, all style and cool flashy graphics with no substance or relevance starting characters acting/talking in ways that no human person acts like (which ends up making them unrelatable):



For my part, when it comes to the FFVII compilation I am of the opinion that it shouldn't have been made, just like The Matrix sequels. The original game just like the original movie was complete as is, self-contained and having no need for sequels or prequels.

Looking forward to the rest of the list, not really troubled by any of the choices so far

Never played Crisis Core, but the cringe is definitely real in that clip

[Mirage]

Heh. It's even worse than I thought it would be.