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    Quote Originally Posted by ToriJ View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Egami View Post
    It has the best villian.
    I'm genuinely interested in hearing how you think the villain is better than Golbez and Kefka.
    He's a tree that hated people so much he turned into a wizard.

    smurf you if you don't think that's excellent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WildRaubtier View Post
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    It has the best villian.
    I'm genuinely interested in hearing how you think the villain is better than Golbez and Kefka.
    He's a tree that hated people so much he turned into a wizard.

    smurf you if you don't think that's excellent.
    You know that is not how he was born?

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    yes its pretty obvious things arent born in the middle of their lives

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    Quote Originally Posted by WildRaubtier View Post
    yes its pretty obvious things arent born in the middle of their lives
    That was no question about literal birth but simply about the fact of soul possessing something and transforming, meaning he himself is not really the tree. People focus too much on the tree thing just because it was the host but in the first place X-Death himself is the fusion of demonic souls. Which is what Neo X-Death, his true being is - even if he was controlled by the void in the end. I don't know about you but mainly I am the self and the human comes afterwards as an outer shell. And in X-Death's case even that demonic chimera alone has a body or at least an appearance as demon.

    Do you know Naraku from Inu Yasha? That is ta similiar, partly the exact case. Naraku is a demon that is the result of a demon chimera which fused with one single body, the body of bandit Onigumo and formed a new individual being. The one who functioned as a host in a way still existed - it would also not have been very useful if he would have vanished - but at first the new individual being that was known as Naraku was born. So even if X-Death's main soul was that of the tree he now has fused with many other souls. And normally - in Naraku's case for some reason it was not the case but whatever - the actual fusion creates the new being and makes the other individual fade away. Just like Gogeta and Vegetto are not Goku and Vegeta. There is also another way of fusing. A fusion that is more an absorption and actually makes your own self not fade but gives you control over whatever you have fused with. That is for example what Xehanort in Kingdom Hearts did (and maybe Naraku and Onigumo to an extent, one body-wose and the other heart-wise).

    Anyway - what I did want to say: Don't forget the souls. Those are the original evil beings that were the roots of X-Death. Roots - ha, ha, ha. Now if hat wasn't a good one.
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    oh is that what you meant
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    ok like the best thing about V is that it doesnt invite pedantry, please dont ruin that for everyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by WildRaubtier View Post
    ok like the best thing about V is that it doesnt invite pedantry, please dont ruin that for everyone

    Everything that follows an explanation and is bound at least one bit to logic, which even video games are shown by the authors reasoning, invites to pendatry. That is why discussions exist so please don't act as if I am the one ruining anything just because I am pointing out something. There will always be the "okay but is is fiction" as well as the "they have tried to built it with logical elements and that follows this consistency or not" side,
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    Seph, he was totes a tree.
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    It's ok to be a tree too. We're not discriminating against trees here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
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    ok like the best thing about V is that it doesnt invite pedantry, please dont ruin that for everyone

    Everything that follows an explanation and is bound at least one bit to logic, which even video games are shown by the authors reasoning, invites to pendatry. That is why discussions exist so please don't act as if I am the one ruining anything just because I am pointing out something. There will always be the "okay but is is fiction" as well as the "they have tried to built it with logical elements and that follows this consistency or not" side,
    it isnt about "okay but this is fiction" its about "okay but even ffv doesnt give a trout about its own story and neither should you"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pike View Post
    I think the FFTA series is better than the original, for example

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    I agree with the FFIX stuff. and it's the same with 6 for me. I can't get into it. Everyone loves it so much.

    X sucks and everyone should know that. it's friggen horrible and you'll never convince me otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by escobert View Post
    X sucks and everyone should know that. it's friggen horrible and you'll never convince me otherwise.
    You misspelled XIII. Oh, wait, this is "controversial opinions." Carry on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToriJ View Post
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    X sucks and everyone should know that. it's friggen horrible and you'll never convince me otherwise.
    You misspelled XIII. Oh, wait, this is "controversial opinions." Carry on.
    Never played XIII so I have no idea! I only played 12 because of it's Tactics connections. After X I really didn't care much for new Square games anymore.

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    Blue magic is stupid and not worth the time to collect it.
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    yeah man, the 2 minutes needed to get white wind and big guard is way too much.
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