Is Final Fantasy Dead?

[Pike]

In another thread ToriJ linked to a couple of articles:

Final Fantasy Is Dead: http://www.wired.com/2013/07/final-fantasy-is-dead/

Final Fantasy Is Still Dead: http://www.wired.com/2013/08/final-f...till-dead/all/

I don't know if I agree. FFTA2 is one of the best games I've played and it came out just a few years ago.

FFXIV A Realm Reborn is super popular.

What do you guys think?

[Colonel Angus]

clickbait

don't feed the trolls

FF isn't dead. It's more alive than a lot of series people get excited about these days.

[Ayen]

I think the Final Fantasy that a lot of people grew up with is dead, and the newer games are more for a new generation of gamers. The article is basically telling us old goats to stop worrying about Final Fantasy making its big comeback and find our entertainment elsewhere. I saw the article as an eye opener honestly.

[Fynn]

Have you seen the thread about Cindy's boobs?

I don't think that's exactly what you'd call dead.

[Freya]

No, squall is dead. Get it right pike, gawd.

I don't think it's "dead" I think it isn't the power house it used to be. Before it was a console staple. Now it's just a long running series. I think their biggest mistake was the long time for XV and the pushing of the XIII series when a large amount of fans didn't like it. Now some fans LOVED it but, in my experience, a lot of them disliked it. So by ostracizing those long time fans not once but twice with two XIII sequels just pushed those dedicated fans away. Now they will mostly be relying on newer fans to carry the next entries.

[Pike]

I think the Final Fantasy that a lot of people grew up with is dead, and the newer games are more for a new generation of gamers. The article is basically telling us old goats to stop worrying about Final Fantasy making its big comeback and find our entertainment elsewhere.

I disagree, I am an older goat than most here and IMO most of the newer FF games are still worth playing - by both old and new fans alike. I also have pretty high hopes for FFXV.

[Laddy]

Final Fantasy is out of the Golden Age?

The games are still popular at least retroactively and FFXV and Type-0 have lots of fans excited. It's not dead as there is plenty of promise and excitement but it could be in further decline if they cannot regain their momentum.

[Ayen]

I don't think it's "dead" I think it isn't the power house it used to be. Before it was a console staple. Now it's just a long running series. I think their biggest mistake was the long time for XV and the pushing of the XIII series when a large amount of fans didn't like it. Now some fans LOVED it but, in my experience, a lot of them disliked it. So by ostracizing those long time fans not once but twice with two XIII sequels just pushed those dedicated fans away. Now they will mostly be relying on newer fans to carry the next entries.

Basically this.

I think the Final Fantasy that a lot of people grew up with is dead, and the newer games are more for a new generation of gamers. The article is basically telling us old goats to stop worrying about Final Fantasy making its big comeback and find our entertainment elsewhere.

I disagree, I am an older goat than most here and IMO most of the newer FF games are still worth playing - by both old and new fans alike. I also have pretty high hopes for FFXV.

I don't. A game in development hell that long is rarely good.

[Pike]

Eh, FF has always gotten itself a new fanbase on a regular basis. How many people came into the series with FFVII? A lot. How many came into it with FFX? A lot. One glance at Tumblr even reveals a ton of people who came into it with FFXIII.

As much as I like to give playful flak to younger gamers, I can't deny that I'm in the minority as a 30-something gamer who is both a.) old enough to remember when the first Final Fantasy was new, and b.) still playing a great deal of video games. Most people my age are doing things like, you know, having kids, and often (though not always) gaming time is the first thing to go.

I wonder if older fans (by which I mean people much older than me) had these concerns when FFVII first came out - that it was alienating the original fans. I've seen old newsgroup posts from gamers in the 80s and 90s who thought that the NES was ruining gaming. And then thought that the SNES was ruining gaming. I reckon you can find all sorts of tears from the past about older FF games.

[Galuf]

. One glance at Tumblr even reveals a ton of people who came into it with FFXIII.

aye too bad i was one of them who entered through xiii. though all the prior ones are wayyy better.

[Pumpkin]

A lot of people absolutely adore XIII, and I personally didn't think it was bad. I like XIV a lot. I dunno how XV will be. But I don't think its dead

[Sephex]

Yeah, this whole thing should have been called, "FF Games Aren't Like They Were For The SNES and PS1 Anymore And I'm Upset About That." Granted, I prefer those days, but I wouldn't call the series dead. It just no longer has the clout or significance that it used to.

[Colonel Angus]

I think the Final Fantasy that a lot of people grew up with is dead, and the newer games are more for a new generation of gamers. The article is basically telling us old goats to stop worrying about Final Fantasy making its big comeback and find our entertainment elsewhere.

I disagree, I am an older goat than most here and IMO most of the newer FF games are still worth playing - by both old and new fans alike. I also have pretty high hopes for FFXV.

That's true. 3 out of my top 5~ are from the PS2 era. X probably had the best battle system in the series & XII the best world. X-2 did the job system right.

If anyone who's developing FFXVI is reading this, take those three things into account.

それは本当だ。 〜5私のトップのうち3はPS2時代からのものである。 Xは、おそらくシリーズ＆XII最高の世界で最高の戦闘システムを持っていた。 X-2は、ジョブ·システムの右をした。


FFXVIの開発だ、誰がこれを読んでいる場合は、考慮にこれらの3つの事を取る。

[DanielCLFFF13]

(SPOILER)
My Reaction

I just hope not, I only knew Final Fantasy for only about 2 years. And Final Fantasy is like the best game series ever (in my opinion, especially Final Fantasy XIII sequel ) If they do, I'll be pretty disappointed.

But this is my opinion

[Ayen]

Eh, FF has always gotten itself a new fanbase on a regular basis. How many people came into the series with FFVII? A lot. How many came into it with FFX? A lot. One glance at Tumblr even reveals a ton of people who came into it with FFXIII.

As much as I like to give playful flak to younger gamers, I can't deny that I'm in the minority as a 30-something gamer who is both a.) old enough to remember when the first Final Fantasy was new, and b.) still playing a great deal of video games. Most people my age are doing things like, you know, having kids, and often (though not always) gaming time is the first thing to go.

I wonder if older fans (by which I mean people much older than me) had these concerns when FFVII first came out - that it was alienating the original fans. I've seen old newsgroup posts from gamers in the 80s and 90s who thought that the NES was ruining gaming. And then thought that the SNES was ruining gaming. I reckon you can find all sorts of tears from the past about older FF games.

Except FFVII is actually responsible for putting the series into the mainstream. FFXIII pave the way for two expensive sequels that didn't sell anywhere near as good as any of their predecessors. So I don't see how these things are comparable. The dip in sales are right there in the second link.

Yeah, this whole thing should have been called, "FF Games Aren't Like They Were For The SNES and PS1 Anymore And I'm Upset About That."

Not enough characters.