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  • Catelyn

    9 47.37%
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Thread: Who was the dumbest Stark: Ned, Robb or Catelyn?

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    Huh? Flower?! What the hell?! Administrator Psychotic's Avatar
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    Default Who was the dumbest Stark: Ned, Robb or Catelyn?

    Ned
    • Trusted Littlefinger despite him telling Ned not to
    • Followed Jon Arryn's steps to the letter in his top secret investigation.
    • Told Cersei everything he knew about her children
    • Totally ignored both Renly and Littlefinger's plans to avoid bloodshed
    • Ignoring Arya overhearing people plotting about him despite the tense political climate
    • Not telling Jon Snow about his parentage
    • Telling Sansa about how she can't marry Joffrey before leaving King's Landing


    Catelyn
    • Randomly leaving Winterfell and going to King's Landing with one bodyguard
    • Her general treatment of Jon Snow was pretty dumb
    • Kidnapping a powerful Lannister on the vague evidence of someone she knew as a child
    • On that subject, told Ned he could trust Littlefinger implicitly
    • Negotiated the marriage Robb Stark - the King in the North - as well as Arya just to cross the Twins.
    • Staying with Robb instead of going home to Bran and Rickon and indeed agreeing to be his envoy
    • On that, she did a grand job of securing alliances with Stannis and/or Renly didn't she...?
    • Betraying her son to give away Jaime Lannister on the random hope that the Lannisters might give Sansa and Arya back, and with just one guard into the middle of the war


    Robb
    • Declaring himself King in the North and thus alienating two potential powerful allies in Stannis and Renly
    • Sending Theon, a hostage, back to the Iron Islands and taking away any leverage he had over House Greyjoy on the hopes they'd agree
    • Agreeing to the marriage proposal to the Freys just to cross when again he could've just gone around
    • Breaking said marriage proposal
    • Not telling Edmure Tully - a major commander in his army - his plans to lure the Lannister forces into the Westerlands, thus smurfing them up
    • Trusting Roose Bolton despite him repeatedly losing battles... except for his own men who always emerge miraculously unharmed
    • Beheading Rickard Karstark and thus alienating a major northern house for some vague sense of "justice"

    I think I convinced myself it's Robb but all three were dumb. Yes yes, I know, honour, grieving mother, green boy, etc. Still dumb.

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    Catelyn. If she didn't go CSI Winterfell and start throwing out accusations everywhere without proper evidence, trout probably wouldn't have progressed so much that her husbands head got cut off and her son didn't declare himself a king and get himself killed.

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    I don't know, they were all pretty dumb.

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    Ned was probably the most dumb in that he assumed the world was generally as honorable as he was. But at least all his moves were consistent with his own sense of honor.

    Robb made mistakes any grieving child would make and only for a few of them should he have known better.

    Catelyn's moves, however, made no sense at all. The way she trusted Littlefinger and made her husband trust him is beyond me. She should have known who that guy was. Her advice to Robb was terrible and her carelessness with regards to her own safety and that of her sons is not how a mother would act. Freeing Jamie was the dumbest move at all and made no sense but at least that accidentally worked out somewhat.

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    Where's the Bran option? If that little dummy had just listened to his mom and not climbed the wall, then 90% of the other trout wouldn't have happened.

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    I think the poll is for the dead Starks.

    Catelyn is the wooooooooooorst.

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    Robb.

    At least Ned and Catelyn had good reasons to act the way they did. Robb was literally just thinking with his dick.
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    Well, if I have to pick one of those three, then it's Catelyn for damn sure. That whole family's dumb, though.

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    Catelyn was stupid. I can see why Robb and Ned did there stuff, but Catelyn was all "i'm a strong woman" kept making weak child mistakes.


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    I think Robb. He just thought he was so damn untouchable.


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    Yeah, and there was this whole "I'll ruin her honor if I don't marry her she's pregnant." You know, you could have not ruined her honor by boffing her.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chionos View Post
    Where's the Bran option? If that little dummy had just listened to his mom and not climbed the wall, then 90% of the other trout wouldn't have happened.
    Corpses only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chionos View Post
    Where's the Bran option? If that little dummy had just listened to his mom and not climbed the wall, then 90% of the other trout wouldn't have happened.
    I dunno about that, man. There was still the whole thing with Jon Arryn being poisoned by the Lannisters. Bran seeing Cersei and Jaime really only expedited the situation.
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    Jinx you are absolutely smurfing insane. Never change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinx View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by chionos View Post
    Where's the Bran option? If that little dummy had just listened to his mom and not climbed the wall, then 90% of the other trout wouldn't have happened.
    I dunno about that, man. There was still the whole thing with Jon Arryn being poisoned by the Lannisters. Bran seeing Cersei and Jaime really only expedited the situation.
    Erm. (SPOILER)The Lannisters didn't poison Jon Arryn. Lysa did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychotic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jinx View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by chionos View Post
    Where's the Bran option? If that little dummy had just listened to his mom and not climbed the wall, then 90% of the other trout wouldn't have happened.
    I dunno about that, man. There was still the whole thing with Jon Arryn being poisoned by the Lannisters. Bran seeing Cersei and Jaime really only expedited the situation.
    Erm. (SPOILER)The Lannisters didn't poison Jon Arryn. Lysa did.
    heavy sighI KNOW THAT. But wasn't the whole thing fabricated by Littlefinger (with Lysa's help) to start a war between the Starks and the Lannisters? So my point is, someone was always trying to get those two families pissed at each other.
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    Jinx you are absolutely smurfing insane. Never change.

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