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    My mom just asked why the government would try to hide proof of UFOs. I'm not a conspiracy nut, but I gave my mom a theory.

    Governments are notorious for secrets. Secret alliances, secret plans, secret technology, secret discoveries... cell phones that are newly available on store shelves today were created (usually) about five years earlier (of course, that's just marketing). Much of the convenience technology that we enjoy today was invented and utilized at least 10 years before it was made available for public consumption. Most of it originally served more dubious purposes. The microwave was developed due to experimentation with radiation for the purpose of creating devastating bombs. Governments typically try to utilize any and all technology first and foremost for the preservation of a nation by means of war (deterrents and weapons of mass-destruction).

    Now, imagine how advanced a UFO (typically believed to be alien not only to our world but to our system) would have to be to traverse space. The speculation of visitation by aliens to our planet has occurred since before the moon landing. Today, people are gearing up for life on Mars.

    What better motivation does the government need to hide proof of alien life than so that they can reverse-engineer as much technology from the xenotech as possible? If aliens do exist, I predict it'll be at least another 30 or so years before the government would even begin to consider admitting it.

    But as to how such a revelation would affect me... I do not now nor will I ever really care.
    Jack: How do you know?

    Will: It's more of a feeling really.

    Jack: Well, that's not scientific. Feeling isn't knowing. Feeling is believing. If you believe it, you can't know because there's no knowing what you believe. Then again, no one should believe what they know either. Once you know anything that anything becomes unbelievable if only by virtue of the fact you now... know it. You know?

    Will: No.

    If Demolition Man were remade today

    Huxley: What's wrong? You broke contact.
    Spartan: Contact? I didn't even touch you.
    Huxley: Don't you want to make love?
    Spartan: Is that what you call this? Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?
    Huxley: NO!
    Spartan: Whoa! Okay, calm down.
    Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
    Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
    Huxley: Physical relations in the way of intercourse are no longer acceptable John Spartan.
    Spartan: What? Why the hell not?
    Huxley: It's the law, John. And for your information, the very idea that you suggested it makes me feel personally violated.
    Spartan: Wait a minute... violated? Huxley what the hell are you accusing me of here?
    Huxley: You need to leave, John.
    Spartan: But Huxley.
    Huxley: Get out!
    Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.

    By the way, that's called satire. Get over it.

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    Of course cell phones today we're created 5 years ago. It's called prototyping and it is a completely normal part of the development cycle of new technology. It has nothing to do with the government.
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    My parents and my grandfather have been to Area 51.

    My grandfather hauled a load of something there... They made him stay at the guard shack outside and took his truck. When they brought it back to him, it was entirely spotless from top to bottom- including his trailer. The trailer was empty, but they told him to run the refrigeration unit on it anyway.

    I don't remember what happened when my parents were there, I'll have to ask my dad. He's shown me where everything is on Google Maps before- like where the actual Area 51 part is.



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    It's strange how government-related conspiracy theories seem to have becomes so much more widespread over the last two decades, when in reality it's becoming harder than ever for governments to keep secrets.

    Just think of how many widely publicised leaks there have been across the world in the last few years.

    Another thing that's always puzzled me is how much organisational skill these conspiracies credit governments with. Governments make stupid blunders all the time, yet conspiracy theorists always seem to assume that everything is run in an intelligent fashion, which is unfortunately not the case a lot of the time.

    My final big conspiracy theory gripe is about the sheer numbers of people that would have to be involved to keep certain things secret. For something like the Moon landing, hundreds of thousands of people at least would have to be involved in the conspiracy for the landing to be false, including everyone who's looked through a strong telescope at the Moon and seen the evidence of the landing with their own eyes. Which includes me, by the way. It would be FAR easier to actually go to the Moon than organise all that.

    Bearing all that in mind, could something like alien technology REALLY be kept a secret? Probably not.

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    True enough. The government probably lacks the capability of keeping aliens a secret, but it isn't above culpability. Just because a government may "fail to keep a secret," doesn't mean they don't exhaust resources in a feckless attempt to keep said secret. That's what my mother's issue was, the "why". Governments have their reasons for keeping secrets, stupid as those reasons may be. It really doesn't matter if aliens really do exist.

    By the way, if aliens did exist, most likely they live among us, having technology that allows them to blend in with us or perhaps even control our perceptions. Thus it wouldn't really be our government hiding aliens. It would be the aliens hiding the aliens. Maybe every high-level politician inevitably gets replaced by an alien drone. I've got far too many alien invasion movies in my head right now (especially V). Again, however, none of this would matter. If aliens were responsible for hiding themselves among us, then there's absolutely nothing that we can do about it. At least until a noticeable crack in the system appears and the existence of aliens becomes plain to see.
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    Jack: How do you know?

    Will: It's more of a feeling really.

    Jack: Well, that's not scientific. Feeling isn't knowing. Feeling is believing. If you believe it, you can't know because there's no knowing what you believe. Then again, no one should believe what they know either. Once you know anything that anything becomes unbelievable if only by virtue of the fact you now... know it. You know?

    Will: No.

    If Demolition Man were remade today

    Huxley: What's wrong? You broke contact.
    Spartan: Contact? I didn't even touch you.
    Huxley: Don't you want to make love?
    Spartan: Is that what you call this? Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?
    Huxley: NO!
    Spartan: Whoa! Okay, calm down.
    Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
    Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
    Huxley: Physical relations in the way of intercourse are no longer acceptable John Spartan.
    Spartan: What? Why the hell not?
    Huxley: It's the law, John. And for your information, the very idea that you suggested it makes me feel personally violated.
    Spartan: Wait a minute... violated? Huxley what the hell are you accusing me of here?
    Huxley: You need to leave, John.
    Spartan: But Huxley.
    Huxley: Get out!
    Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.

    By the way, that's called satire. Get over it.

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