Page 5 of 9 FirstFirst 123456789 LastLast
Results 61 to 75 of 128

Thread: 5 Concerns About the Final Fantasy VII Remake Announcement

  1. #61
    tech spirit
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Virgo supercluster
    Posts
    17,950
    Articles
    2
    Blog Entries
    2

    FFXIV Character

    Mirage Askai (Sargatanas)

    Default

    FF13 and 13-2 was ATB, just more dynamic, and with command queuing. There's no reason why a new game would have to have skill trees even if some of the most recent games had that. FF10-2 had a classic job system, and we hadn't seen that since FF5 (or FF Tactics if you want).

    FF12's combat was not very MMO-like. I've played WoW, FF11 and FF14 (and a few other minor ones) and none of them feel anything like FF12.
    everything is wrapped in gray
    i'm focusing on your image
    can you hear me in the void?

  2. #62
    Radical Dreamer Fynn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Tower of the Swallow
    Posts
    18,937
    Articles
    57
    Blog Entries
    16

    FFXIV Character

    Fynnek Zoryasch (Twintania)
    Contributions
    • Former Editor
    • Former Cid's Knight

    Default

    To be honest, Id love it if the battles were more FFXII/Xenoblade-like.

  3. #63
    tech spirit
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Virgo supercluster
    Posts
    17,950
    Articles
    2
    Blog Entries
    2

    FFXIV Character

    Mirage Askai (Sargatanas)

    Default

    Xenoblade was great. That game's combat is also really similar to FF11, but accompanied by a user interface that is actually good. Unlike FF11.
    everything is wrapped in gray
    i'm focusing on your image
    can you hear me in the void?

  4. #64

    Default

    No, uruggh * loud screaming * please keep the FF VII battle system the same. ;-;


    * slips $ 5 to SE *


    Keep the FF XII/ FF XV type battle systems to those games.

  5. #65

    Default

    I have nothing against real time systems like XII, XV, Xenoblade etc. But I want to be able to micromanage all my characters, not control one and let the AI take care of the rest. That's something that's been missing since X-2, and it's a shame. I'd be disappointed if we lost that from VII's battle system, pretty much anything else I wont mind.

  6. #66
    Resident Critic Ayen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Location
    Kansas City, Kansas
    Posts
    13,361
    Articles
    12
    Blog Entries
    76

    Default

    I see no reason to be worried from that interview. Like others have mentioned elsewhere, what he said about the battes doesn't automatically means he's going to do away with turn base, and he's right. We can't have two of the same thing on the same freaking console! I'd question why they chose to port the original on the PS4 to begin with if they had a remake coming out, but then I remember it's probably for the people who only think they want a remake when in reality they just want a graphical update. Not that I expect it to look particularly impressive in HD with how it was designed originally. The character models, anyway.

    It's very likely that not everyone is going to like everything.
    Stating the obvious here. That's anything that's ever been created in the history of ever, but nonetheless true. As I ranted about already, they could keep everything in tact from the old game and people would still bitch. It's inevitable that people are going to say, "It's not as good as the original." That's something most remakes have in common. You know what else they have in common?

    Not being exactly the same as the original.

  7. #67

    Default

    Talk about exaggeration. "Universally loathed" is an inappropriate stretch. I'd like to think that I'm part of this universe and I actually like Genesis better than Sephiroth. Sephiroth is just a whiny little mama's boy.

    I also don't think Cloud's personality in Crisis Core was unwarranted. He was obviously an insecure and socially inept kid. Clearly the mako bath which is a requisite for all SOLDIER members including MPs didn't help him.
    Jack: How do you know?

    Will: It's more of a feeling really.

    Jack: Well, that's not scientific. Feeling isn't knowing. Feeling is believing. If you believe it, you can't know because there's no knowing what you believe. Then again, no one should believe what they know either. Once you know anything that anything becomes unbelievable if only by virtue of the fact you now... know it. You know?

    Will: No.

    If Demolition Man were remade today

    Huxley: What's wrong? You broke contact.
    Spartan: Contact? I didn't even touch you.
    Huxley: Don't you want to make love?
    Spartan: Is that what you call this? Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?
    Huxley: NO!
    Spartan: Whoa! Okay, calm down.
    Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
    Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
    Huxley: Physical relations in the way of intercourse are no longer acceptable John Spartan.
    Spartan: What? Why the hell not?
    Huxley: It's the law, John. And for your information, the very idea that you suggested it makes me feel personally violated.
    Spartan: Wait a minute... violated? Huxley what the hell are you accusing me of here?
    Huxley: You need to leave, John.
    Spartan: But Huxley.
    Huxley: Get out!
    Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.

    By the way, that's called satire. Get over it.

  8. #68
    Radical Dreamer Fynn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Tower of the Swallow
    Posts
    18,937
    Articles
    57
    Blog Entries
    16

    FFXIV Character

    Fynnek Zoryasch (Twintania)
    Contributions
    • Former Editor
    • Former Cid's Knight

    Default

    There's enough Genesis hate going on to consider him "universally loathed"

  9. #69
    Newbie Administrator Loony BoB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2000
    Posts
    52,473
    Articles
    53
    Blog Entries
    19

    FFXIV Character

    Loony Bob (Twintania)

    Default

    I don't like Genesis, but I don't think "universally loathed" is accurate either. Hell, Crisis Core isn't even "universally played". Genesis is generally disliked, that's probably fair to say, though. I don't loathe Genesis.
    Bow before the mighty Javoo!

  10. #70
    Trial by Wombat Bubba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Shmocation
    Posts
    10,370
    Articles
    2
    Blog Entries
    2
    Contributions
    • Former Cid's Knight

    Default

    The one thing I've realised about fans of Final Fantasy is that we love a good whinge... about anything. It seems every element of every final fantasy games are both loved and loathed by fans. We all know that making this game and pleasing everyone is an impossible task. I know for a fact that there will be parts of this game that I won't like but I don't really care. I can't wait to see the world I know and love in gloriously fleshed-out HD.

    If they change the battle system and it isn't to my taste then fine, I'll go and play the original again. If I want to wander around Cosmo Canyon in the way I've dreamt about, hopefully, I can do this in the remake.

    I just can't wait to have another way of experiencing this world.

  11. #71
    Resident Critic Ayen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Location
    Kansas City, Kansas
    Posts
    13,361
    Articles
    12
    Blog Entries
    76

    Default

    Genesis has never bothered me. Everyone talks about how his Loveless quotes are annoying, but they just don't phase me. Only thing that annoyed me about him had nothing to do with his character, just him being placed somewhere he didn't need to be, but eeh. I got over it.

  12. #72
    Trial by Wombat Bubba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Shmocation
    Posts
    10,370
    Articles
    2
    Blog Entries
    2
    Contributions
    • Former Cid's Knight

    Default

    Whatever happens, let's just hope the character models are better than the godawful ones in the Steam Edition HD Mod that Psy is currently playing...

    ...where Red XIII has been on a strict diet of crack cocaine and Cid looks like he should be on a float at Gay Pride.



    Attached Images Attached Images

  13. #73

    Default

    If they want to update it but still keeping in-touch with the original. I wouldn't mind these two options:

    1). I wouldn't mind a new battle system (called "Modern" mode or something similar) in the style similar to FFXV or FFXIII, but I would like to be able to switch to other characters at any time to control. The characters that switch to being controlled by AI, fall into back into their style specific to them such as Tifa acrobatically applying various basic melee attacks by jumping off of walls, etc - using her environment. (The style of the attack when the player selects it, would also be randomised the same way the game decides the style of the attack for the AI). In conjunction with that, players could set commands for the AI controlled characters to give them specific roles just like in FFXII. To add what someone said in this thread also - maybe the ability to swap out characters like FFX and making the game more tactical in tackling a foe to employ this.


    2). Then there would be a "Classic/Original" mode option where the battle system is like-for-like of the original.

    With this there would obviously be an option to switch between Classic and Modern when selecting a new game or changing between the two in-game. Faithful and modernised at the same time, suiting everyone's taste.

    I also thought of just now. The battle mechanics in terms of characters Intelligence. With a foe that is susceptible to more physical damage from being attacked from behind, the higher INT an AI controlled character has, the more likely they are to jockey into a position to try and exploit such a weakness. You'd obviously tie it to the foe's INT, to be more aware of its weakness and position itself where the weakness can't be exploited. The same could apply to a players accuracy, from outright missing the foe, to causing critical hit. Again tied into the foe's agility, the foe could could just dodge the attack like a boss.

    I think this would give battles a very realistic visual representation of stats and a clear visual growth of the characters through out the game, getting, stronger, faster, more intelligent etc. Just like you might see of a player in a sports game.

    I've put too much thought into this. A guy can dream
    Last edited by DarkMatta; 06-19-2015 at 01:02 PM. Reason: More

  14. #74

    Default

    I hope the Remake's name is

    FINAL FANTASY VII REBORN

    Or something along the line.

  15. #75

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
    I hope the Remake's name is

    FINAL FANTASY VII REBORN

    Or something along the line.
    Final Fantasy XIV already claims that one.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •