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    Default Main story themes of Final Fantasy

    I'm replaying IX currently, and I came to the conclusion that the main theme for this game is that we're all capable of good and evil, and it's up to us to choose our own destinies.

    I actually realized the same can be applied for most of the games in the series. I was wondering what other themes in the games people were drawn to, or what they think they "main theme" of the entire series is.
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    I always thought IX's main theme was life and death. But I guess there could be more than one theme.

    FFI's theme is that even if your efforts aren't recognized by anyone, it's important that you did the right thing.

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    Life and death are motfis, not themes!
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    I still kind of thought that the theme of life having meaning because of death was the main theme in FFIX. I mean even metaphorical death, like with what happened with Fratley's memories.

    But yeah, the motifs are definitely there.

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    Though not Final fantasy, Chrono triggers theme is you can accomplish anything you set your mind to, while Chrono Crosses theme is even with a time machine death will get you! But for Final Fantasy, I always see it as a friendship theme, good will win over all the odds of evil. Hard work will get help you out!

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    FFXII's is kind of a deconstruction. Yes, your fight for freedom is important, but other people are also fighting for freedom in a way that may be conflicting your own, and using any means necessary to achieve that freedom is a very slippery slope.

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    Most of the games do have a central theme to them and a few are well documented. Vii's theme was Life, VIII's was Love and so forth.

    My Opinion:

    I: Karma
    II: Sacrifice
    III: Balance and Hope
    IV: Redemption and Forgiveness
    V: Inheritance
    VI: Hope and finding meaning in one's life
    VII: The Nature of Life
    VIII: Love, both romantic and self
    IX: The meaning of life and to overcome the fear of death
    X: Journey and learning to deviate from social standards
    XI: Camaraderie and empathy
    XII: Freedom
    XIII: To fight one's destiny
    XIV: Nostalgia
    XV: Brotherhood

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    Most of the games do have a central theme to them and a few are well documented. Vii's theme was Life, VIII's was Love and so forth.

    My Opinion:

    I: Karma
    II: Sacrifice
    III: Balance and Hope
    IV: Redemption and Forgiveness
    V: Inheritance
    VI: Hope and finding meaning in one's life
    VII: The Nature of Life
    VIII: Love, both romantic and self
    IX: The meaning of life and to overcome the fear of death
    X: Journey and learning to deviate from social standards
    XI: Camaraderie and empathy
    XII: Freedom
    XIII: To fight one's destiny
    XIV: Nostalgia
    XV: Brotherhood
    All motifs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinx View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    Most of the games do have a central theme to them and a few are well documented. Vii's theme was Life, VIII's was Love and so forth.

    My Opinion:

    I: Karma
    II: Sacrifice
    III: Balance and Hope
    IV: Redemption and Forgiveness
    V: Inheritance
    VI: Hope and finding meaning in one's life
    VII: The Nature of Life
    VIII: Love, both romantic and self
    IX: The meaning of life and to overcome the fear of death
    X: Journey and learning to deviate from social standards
    XI: Camaraderie and empathy
    XII: Freedom
    XIII: To fight one's destiny
    XIV: Nostalgia
    XV: Brotherhood
    All motifs.
    There is honestly not much of a difference between motif and theme by definition. They both mean an overriding message that a story revolves around unless we're talking small themes as opposed to a work's overarching message.

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    Me too

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    the theme of hope pops up a lot in the game. Terra is the last hope of the Returners and later the world, the World of Ruin is completely about characters learning to regain hope that things can be changed and Kefka stopped. Terra finds hope in living with people and accepting her esper heritage through the next generation of people who are not tarnished by the stories of the past about her race. The reason I added meaning in one's life is because that's where the theme of love you see comes into play as each character finds their reason to continue on. Yes many of them are love, but there is also acceptance, friendship, duty, and most of all hope that spurrs the party to get off their ass and attempt to save the world again. Kefka's whole final speech against the party in the game's ending is about finding meaning to not give into nihilism like he has. That's where I'm coming from at least.

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    The theme of all the Final Fantasy games I've played is that gods can't be trusted and humans should shape their own destiny
    Jinx: IT'S A MOTIF! Me: Whatevs, Jinx, it's totally a theme


    FFX: Yu Yevon is the one that causes all the problems, it's only when it's been defeated that society can advance.

    FFX-2: God is dead, so people create new idols to worship in the form of political organisations. The Big Bad can only be defeated once these idols are revealed for the divisive, ultimately pointless things which they truly are.

    FFXII: The Curia control human destiny. Freedom can only be gained by rejecting the power they offer - the Nethicite.

    FFXIII: the fal'Cie, considered by many to be gods, try to destroy the world in a vain attempt to reunite with their creator. They've been looking after the humans in Cocoon, BUT, technology advances beyond them once mankind is forced to rely on itself.

    FFXIII-2: The goddess Etro tries to help people, but ends up causing literally ALL THE PROBLEMS.

    Lightning Returns: God is going to screw us over, so Lightning has to kill him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Carnelian View Post
    The theme of all the Final Fantasy games I've played is that gods can't be trusted and humans should shape their own destiny
    Jinx: IT'S A MOTIF! Me: Whatevs, Jinx, it's totally a theme


    This actually is a theme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinx View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Carnelian View Post
    The theme of all the Final Fantasy games I've played is that gods can't be trusted and humans should shape their own destiny
    Jinx: IT'S A MOTIF! Me: Whatevs, Jinx, it's totally a theme


    This actually is a theme.
    Yay!


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