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    Unlock Collectables

    Quest: Inscrutable Tastes
    Quest NPC: Morgayne, Foundation, 10,10. Just north of the Aetheryte. It might not show up as an available quest on your map, no idea why, but it happens for some people.
    This quest requires you to have completed the L50 main story quest "The Better Half" and to have a DoL or DoH at 50 or above in order to accept it.

    Gear Change Macros: Collectable Style

    ADVICE: Set these macros for easy job changing... obviously change the gear set number to whatever is appropriate for your own character.

    PHP Code:
    /micon "Arbor call"
    /gs change 9 <wait.1>
    /
    ac "Truth of Forests" <me> <wait.1>
    /
    ac "Collect" <me> <wait.1
    PHP Code:
    /micon "Lay of the Land"
    /gs change 10 <wait.1>
    /
    ac "Truth of Mountains" <me> <wait.1>
    /
    ac "Collect" <me> <wait.1
    PHP Code:
    /micon "Cast"
    /gs change 11 <wait.1>
    /
    ac "Snagging" <me> <wait.1>
    /
    ac "Collect" <me> <wait.1
    The reason I have collectables auto-on is because if you hit when you're on collectable but don't want to be on collectable, it's okay, you just hit return. If you hit when you're not on collectable and you want a collectable, you done smurfed up.

    Collectable Types & Requirements

    What is your goal? Depending on your goal and your perception level, you should use a different rotation to get the best yield possible.

    Blue Scrips
    Level 59 items (Cuprite / Morel)
    Gathering - 429
    GP - 600 (ideally 650 for 100% accuracy)
    Perception
    507: Rotation #1 - The One Shot
    532: Rotation #2 - Deema Deema Deema
    542: Rotation #3 - The Single Impulsive
    552: Rotation #4 - The Double Impulsive
    557: Rotation #5 - The Triple Impulsive
    567: Rotation #7 - Deema Smeema Deema

    Level 58 items
    Gathering - 424
    GP - 600 (ideally 650 for 100% accuracy)
    Perception
    488: Rotation #1 - The One Shot
    513: Rotation #2 - Deema Deema Deema
    523: Rotation #3 - The Single Impulsive
    533: Rotation #4 - The Double Impulsive
    538: Rotation #5 - The Triple Impulsive
    548: Rotation #7 - Deema Smeema Deema

    Level 56 items
    Gathering - 417
    GP - 600 (ideally 650 for 100% accuracy)
    Perception
    464: Rotation #1 - The One Shot
    489: Rotation #2 - Deema Deema Deema
    499: Rotation #3 - The Single Impulsive
    509: Rotation #4 - The Double Impulsive
    514: Rotation #5 - The Triple Impulsive
    524: Rotation #7 - Deema Smeema Deema

    Red Scrips
    Adamantite Ore & Chysahl Greens
    Gathering - 434
    GP - 600 (ideally 650 for 100% accuracy)
    Perception
    520: Rotation #1 - The One Shot
    550: Rotation #2 - Deema Deema Deema
    560: Rotation #3 - The Single Impulsive
    565: Rotation #4 - The Double Impulsive
    580: Rotation #5 - The Triple Impulsive

    Regional Folklore
    Gathering - 645
    GP - 600 (ideally 650 in order to get closer to 100% accuracy)
    Perception
    630: Rotation #1 - The One Shot
    660: Rotation #2 - Deema Deema Deema
    670: Rotation #3 - The Single Impulsive
    675: Rotation #4 - The Double Impulsive
    690: Rotation #5 - The Triple Impulsive (690 assumed - 668-690, have been unable to get a gear set with 689 perception, but the 690 is a very safe assumption based on the pattern of rarity increases for this node)

    Counterfoil
    Adamantite Ore & Chysahl Greens
    Gathering - 434
    GP - 600 (ideally 650 for 100% accuracy)
    Perception
    550: Rotation #1 - The One Shot
    550: 3% chance when using Rotation #5: The Triple Impulsive
    585: 15% chance when using Rotation #5: The Triple Impulsive

    HQ Landborne/Leafborne Aethersand
    L60 items at Ephemeral Nodes
    Gathering - N/A
    GP - 600 (ideally 650 for 100% accuracy)
    Perception
    585: Rotation E: 8/8 Ephemeral~

    NOTE: You can also use the 8/8 Ephemeral rotation on L58 items at perception 563, and L56 items at perception 539... however you can't get HQ Landborne/Leafborne Aethersand from those items. You can, however, get NQ Landborne/Leafborne from L58 items. May RNG be favourable to you.

    Rotations

    NOTE: All rotations assume you have used the first swing to reveal the item you wish to collect. For ephemeral nodes, this is not required. All rotations also assume you have done the obvious thing and actually gathered the item at least once beforehand so that the item is "unlocked" for collectable gathering.

    Rotation #1: The One Shot
    - Discerning Eye
    - Methodical Appraisal
    - Discerning Eye
    - Methodical Appraisal
    - Utmost Caution
    - Methodical Appraisal
    - Utmost Caution
    - Methodical Appraisal
    - Sharp Vision (MIN) or Field Mastery (BTN) if you another 50 GP to use.
    - Collect!

    Yield: 1 (100%) collectable item.

    Rotation #2: Deema Deema Deema
    - Discerning Eye
    - Methodical Appraisal
    - Discerning Eye
    - Methodical Appraisal
    - Discerning Eye
    - Methodical Appraisal
    - Sharp Vision (MIN) or Field Mastery (BTN) if you another 50 GP to use.
    - Collect!

    Yield: 2 (100%) collectable items.

    Rotation #3: The Single Impulsive
    - Discerning Eye
    - Impulsive Appraisal
    --- If Discerning Eye procs, use Single Mind
    --- If Discerning Eye did NOT proc, use Discerning Eye
    - Methodical Appraisal
    - Discerning Eye
    - Methodical Appraisal
    - Sharp Vision (MIN) or Field Mastery (BTN) if you another 50 GP to use.
    - Collect!

    Yield: 2 (70%) or 3 (30%) collectable items. Over time, this should average at 2.3 items.

    Rotation #4: The Double Impulsive
    - Discerning Eye
    - Impulsive Appraisal
    --- If Discerning Eye procs, use Single Mind
    --- If Discerning Eye did NOT proc, use Discerning Eye
    - Impulsive Appraisal
    --- If Discerning Eye procs, use Single Mind
    --- If Discerning Eye did NOT proc, use Discerning Eye
    - Methodical Appraisal
    - Sharp Vision (MIN) or Field Mastery (BTN) if you another 50 GP to use.
    - Collect!

    Yield: 2 (49%), 3 (42%) or 4 (9%) collectable items. Over time, this should average at 2.6 items.

    Rotation #5: The Triple Impulsive
    - Single Mind
    - Utmost Caution
    - Impulsive Appraisal
    - Impulsive Appraisal
    - Impulsive Appraisal
    --- If Discerning Eye procs at least once during the three Impulsive Appraisals, use Single Mind
    --- If Discerning Eye did NOT proc at all, use Discerning Eye
    - Utmost Caution
    - Methodical Appraisal
    - Sharp Vision (MIN) or Field Mastery (BTN) if you another 50 GP to use.
    - Collect!

    Yield: 2 (34%) or 3 (66%) collectable items. Over time, this should average at 2.657 items. The 3 collectable items can be of a higher quality than those gathered through rotation #4.

    Rotation #6: Smuck ma Smuck ma Mama
    - Single Mind
    - Utmost Caution
    - Methodical Appraisal
    - Single Mind
    - Utmost Caution
    - Methodical Appraisal
    - Methodical Appraisal
    - Methodical Appraisal
    - Sharp Vision (MIN) or Field Mastery (BTN) if you another 50 GP to use.
    - Collect!

    Results: 3 (100%) collectable items.

    Rotation #7: Deema Smeema Deema
    - Discerning Eye
    - Methodical Appraisal
    - Single Mind
    - Methodical Appraisal
    - Discerning Eye
    - Methodical Appraisal
    - Sharp Vision (MIN) or Field Mastery (BTN) if you another 50 GP to use.
    - Collect!

    Results: 3 (100%) collectable items.

    Rotation E: 8/8 Ephemeral

    USEFUL: Where and when to find Ephemeral Nodes

    ADVICE: Buy Cordial. A stack of it, if you can. I'm assuming if you're reading this guide that you want to farm for the Leafborne/Landborne aethersand. This is an RNG heavy thing, very RNG heavy, so the reason I say a STACK of Cordial is because farming that sucker will likely take you many attempts. Or just one. Depends on how RNG feels about you that moment!

    - Touch the ephemeral node
    --- If there is no L60 item, leave the node as it is and run to another pair of regular nodes nearby. Touch one of them. No need to actually gather from them so long as you "open" the gathering options for the node and then close it again (ie, "touching the node"). Do the same with another pair. This resets the ephemeral node. Waiting for an L60 item to pop on the node can be very frustrating, but that's RNG and that's why the rewards are highly sought after.
    --- If there is an L60 item, proceed...
    - Impulsive Appraisal
    --- If Discerning Eye did NOT proc, use Solid Reason (MIN) or Ageless Words (BTN) and exit the node. This regenerates the hit you just took out of it, but leaves you 300GP short. You can either use a Cordial or you can sit and wait for your GP to regenerate before trying the above step again. Don't hit other nodes while you wait... that will reset this one and you'll end up having to try to pop your L60 item on the node again. Not worth it. I've gone four game hours with 0 L60 nodes. Genuinely, don't waste it when you get one.
    --- If Discerning Eye procs, you're good to go. Proceed as follows...
    - Single Mind
    - Utmost Caution
    - Methodical Appraisal
    - Utmost Caution
    - Impulsive Appraisal
    --- If Discerning Eye procs, use Single Mind
    --- If Discerning Eye did NOT proc, use Discerning Eye
    - Methodical Appraisal
    - Sharp Vision (MIN) or Field Mastery (BTN) if you another 50 GP to use.
    - Collect!

    NOTE: If you're short on time and have to go do something in the next five minutes, and the first Discerning Eye doesn't proc, you can gamble on the second Impulsive Appraisal getting you the 30% result you want. If you want to do that, click the 'Gambler' tag below.

    Gambler
    - You've already used Impulsive Appraisal. Discerning Eye did not proc. You want to gamble on the second one. So...
    - Utmost Caution
    - Methodical Appraisal
    - Utmost Caution
    - Impulsive Appraisal
    --- If Discerning Eye procs, use Single Mind
    --- If Discerning Eye did NOT proc, use Discerning Eye, but you're guaranteed to not get a Landborne/Leafborne aethersand, sorry. I told you it was a gamble! Still, you have a chance at the other aethersands.
    - Methodical Appraisal
    - Sharp Vision (MIN) or Field Mastery (BTN) if you another 50 GP to use.
    - Collect!


    Backout Yield: Reattempt (70%), 1 (21%) or 2 (9%) 8/8 quality collectable items. Over time, this should average at 0.39 or 1.3 8/8 collectable items depending on whether or not you count the reattempt as 0 yield.
    Gamble Yield: 0 (49%), 1 (42%) or 2 (9%) 8/8 collectable items. Over time, this should average at 0.6 8/8 collectable items.
    Aetherial Reduction Results on 8/8 Quality for L60 items: Aetherial Reduction on the 8/8 L60 collectable will give you 50-70 Crystals and ONE of the following (in order of apparent value)...
    - 50-70 Clusters
    - 1-3 Duskborne Aethersand
    - 1 HQ Duskborne Aethersand
    - 1-3 Dawnborne Aethersand
    - 1 HQ Dawnborne Aethersand
    - 1-3 Landborne (MIN) or Leafborne (BTN) Aethersand
    - 1 HQ Landborne (MIN) or Leafborne (BTN) Aethersand (JACKPOT!)

    MORE ADVICE: Once you leave the node upon a successful gathering, and you intend on doing it again, pop a cordial immediately if you can. Because that wait is a butt. Otherwise, you could use that regeneration time to gather materials, use a gathering favor, fish, whatever.

    CREDIT WHERE DUE: Thanks heaps to TechnoTechie of the FFXIV forums for helping me put together this data!
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    Quick note: be aware that for folklore collectables you'll need a lot more perception than adamantite/chysahl. For chysahl/adamantite, 576 perception's enough (possibly less, not sure), but for folklore you'll need like 650 or 660 perception to reach 470 collectability.

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    I'm doing heavy editing on the above, to get a much more accurate, detailed, elaborate and far better guide in general.
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    I've been collecting for awhile now, but this is a good guide BoB. Thanks! It was really hard to find all this kind of information and make sense of it a couple of months ago.


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    Rotation for Maximum Dawnborne (used for relic items)

    USEFUL: Where and when to find Ephemeral Nodes

    ADVICE: Buy Cordial. A stack of it, if you can. I'm assuming if you're reading this guide that you want to farm for the Dawborne aethersand. This is an RNG heavy thing, so the reason I say a STACK of Cordial is because farming that sucker will be a lot faster if you have a stack. Farming be farming, after all.

    - Touch the ephemeral node
    --- If there is no L58 OR L60 item, leave the node as it is and run to another pair of regular nodes nearby. Touch one of them. No need to actually gather from them so long as you "open" the gathering options for the node and then close it again (ie, "touching the node"). Do the same with another pair. This resets the ephemeral node.
    --- If there is an L58 OR L60 item, proceed...
    - Impulsive Appraisal
    - Single Mind
    - Utmost Caution
    - Methodical Appraisal
    - Impulsive Appraisal
    --- If Discerning Eye procs, use Single Mind
    --- If Discerning Eye did NOT proc, use Discerning Eye
    - Utmost Caution
    - Methodical Appraisal
    - Sharp Vision (MIN) or Field Mastery (BTN) if you another 50 GP to use.
    - Collect!

    Pop a cordial as soon as you're done, then start touching nodes until another L58/L60 item pops on the ephemeral node and carry on. You might have to wait a long time sometimes because you still need 600 GP - and 650GP preferred.

    This should assure you over 450 quality, which is needed for a chance of Dawnborne. If you get 550 quality you'll also have a chance for Landborne/Leafborne. But if you're farming Dawnborne, it's not really that beneficial.
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