Why must Latinos have everything in Spanish, and why won't they assimilate?

[Madame Adequate]

"Why won't they assimilate" because America isn't populated by the smurfing borg

[Ayen]

Debido Inglés es una lengua de mierda, y la española es de la patria superir de Mexico . Tiempo América como superpotencia está en un extremo , y México gobernará como el Surpreme bienestar de todo el mundo , ¿de acuerdo ?

[sharkythesharkdogg]

Nosotros somos los Borg. La resistencia es inútil. Usted será asimilado.

Close enough.

[Night Fury]

Spanish is probably their first language. So that's why they use it as their first language.

[DMKA]

Because they're lazy.

[Freya]

Yeah, Americans are so lazy to not attempt to learn literally any other language than their native one, I agree.

[DMKA]

So wait, people who live in their own native country speaking their own native language are lazy for speaking the native language, but the people who come from another country who don't speak the native language and refuse to learn the native language so they can adequately communicate like everyone else aren't lazy? What?

(SPOILER)And in case you couldn't tell, I was being facetious in that last post. I'm half Mexican.

[Mirage]

But most of them do speak english.

[Mirage]

You could say that about any discussion

should we just stop discussing politics all together?

[Pheesh]

I didn't know about those stats that Shion posted before she posted them, so this topic has officially been educational for someone, even if you personally get nothing out of it.

[Mirage]

Except no one is interesting in discussing the issue at all. It's an excuse to push one's agenda on another person. There isn't a conversation going on. No one is attempting to listen to another viewpoint or make the effort to see the other side of the coin. It's the same garbage as usual.

So if there was a discussion going on, we would suddenly be solving political issues on a final fantasy board?

[Sephex]

I apologize. You guys are right. I'm deleting the previous posts. Please carry on with this thread's discussion.

EDIT: I'll legit help out this time since I seemed to have killed the thread.

Point: There are plenty of immigrants that speak neither English or Spanish that go to the US. Should they learn either or language or should the US help them out by having important things in other languages?

EDIT2: As for any assimilation sort of deal, it is a tough call. Some people are proud of their heritage and they have a right to keep it going. However, I have known families where the first generation of immigrants to come to the US did away with teaching their children their native language and hammered English into their children's brains.

I personally don't see either way as a big deal. I never felt like another language is going to take over English is the US. There are more places where speaking Spanish is an option, but aside from the very rare case where you have to know Spanish to get a job (and if that's even the case most places will offer to teach new employees the language anyway).

EDIT3: I was reminded of how German used to be a big language in the US. When the first World War hit, Germans were persecuted and long story short, the language was phased out except for some niche places that still continue to heavily use the language to this day. The Wiki explains it better than I could: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German...ng_World_War_I

It would be interesting to see a language like that come back. The US has no more beef with Germany anymore and the country itself has massively improved since the dark days in my opinion. I like how you can kind of play verbal Legos with that language and have simple words for terms (at least that's how it goes according to my understanding).

[Laddy]

The vast majority of Spanish-speaking Latinos I interact with in my daily life as a server and student speak English very fluently but prefer to speak Spanish amongst their family and friends. I speak French pretty well but if I am in a Francophone nation I would speak English to my friends and family since I'm most comfortable with it and I don't have to switch my brain's internal language.

Even in the event I do serve someone who does not speak English very well, they usually have a child, spouse, or sibling who is willing to translate for them. I really fail to see an issue here.

[Sephex]

The vast majority of Spanish-speaking Latinos I interact with in my daily life as a server and student speak English very fluently but prefer to speak Spanish amongst their family and friends. I speak French pretty well but if I am in a Francophone nation I would speak English to my friends and family since I'm most comfortable with it and I don't have to switch my brain's internal language.

Even in the event I do serve someone who does not speak English very well, they usually have a child, spouse, or sibling who is willing to translate for them. I really fail to see an issue here.

That's a good point. At my work I am around plenty of people who speak Spanish. Most have perfect English, but some have heavier accents. Either way they only speak Spanish with Spanish speaking people and some people even try to learn their language for fun. I've been here so long I've even picked up a few things (I didn't take Spanish in school).

But anyway, I never felt that anyone who spoke Spanish did it out of spite or an unwillingness to "assimilate" or anything. It always seemed more of just something that happens. A reflex. Kind of like how most of us speak very differently among our group of friends or family as opposed to how you talk at work.

[Shiny]

Why can't you just learn spanish instead? Knowing two languages is pretty much standard outside of the US. You're the weird ones.

I always see/hear this but, at least in my area almost everyone takes a second language in high school. And considering the majority of kids go on to college now, they are required to take a second language in high school in order to do so.

Not even high school. It started at middle school (6th grade at the time) for my district and now it stars even earlier at 5th grade. Taking a language class is pretty mandatory in the east coast.