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  • WHM

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  • Firion Lannister

    1 5.88%
  • the guy in 3 idk

    0 0%
  • Cecil

    0 0%
  • Kain

    1 5.88%
  • Buttz

    1 5.88%
  • Locke

    2 11.76%
  • Cloud

    2 11.76%
  • Mukki

    2 11.76%
  • Zidane

    3 17.65%
  • Tidus

    4 23.53%
  • Yuna

    3 17.65%
  • Vaan

    2 11.76%
  • Lightning

    4 23.53%
  • Serah

    0 0%
  • guy in 15

    1 5.88%
  • the concept of a protagonist only applies to some of these games so i can't in good co

    2 11.76%
  • nscience respond to this poll because not all possibilities are covered

    3 17.65%
  • e.g. what if i regard Kain as the protagonist of IV?

    2 11.76%
  • does antman have an antagonist or does it have to be even smaller like a nanoagonist?

    3 17.65%
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Thread: Which FF protagonist is the best?

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    It's not about being nice. It's about being thoughtless. Snow says he'll do it, but he has no plan, no idea how to make it work and doesn't even attempt to think about hit. He just goes in, forcing his way, hoping one thing just clicks along the way. The reason I dislike him so much is that he just doesn't stop and think even for a second, which really is what a normal person would do when the stakes are so high.

    Vanille I'm just meh about since she's just bland and clearly only there for the fanservice.

    And for the record, I love nice characters (heck, being nice was like the biggest characteristic of my last RP character) and I think people are way too often mistaking "rounded, three dimensional, and strong" for "basically a huge dick". But I want my characters to feel real first, and if they're real and nice, that's awesome. If they're m real and bitchy, that's okay, but if they're fake and either nice or bitchy, then all they get from me is a groan. It's all in the writing and if they're not in your face and I can understand where they're coming from with their niceness/bitchiness, I will like them as a character, even if I wouldn't like them as a human being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Adequate View Post
    So for people who think Lightning deserves condemnation because she decks Snow a couple times, you do realize that in almost every FF, almost every playable character mows down armies of human enemies, right?
    self defence bra it's kill or be killed not quite the same

    also approx 0% of those human arm things you're talking about have the dulcet tones of mr troy baker soooo...

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    often enough it's only "self defence" because they've busted into some military facility or something and violently resist efforts at apprehension

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychotic View Post
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    On Topic: Punch Snow in the face? Nah, I'd kick him in the stones so he couldn't reproduce. We don't need a bunch of little Snows running around.
    Snow would absolutely kick your ass dude. Snow would kick every single person on this forum's ass. Except he wouldn't because he doesn't exist.
    Fixed it for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynn View Post
    It's not about being nice. It's about being thoughtless. Snow says he'll do it, but he has no plan, no idea how to make it work and doesn't even attempt to think about hit. He just goes in, forcing his way, hoping one thing just clicks along the way. The reason I dislike him so much is that he just doesn't stop and think even for a second, which really is what a normal person would do when the stakes are so high.
    Or, more likely, and as is canon with Snow, he's merely masking his fears of failure beneath bravado. As long as he keeps saying "I can save Serah!" it's true to him. He doesn't want to face the far more likely possibility she's lost to him forever. In short, it's basic denial, a very common trait in the face of loss.


    Vanille I'm just meh about since she's just bland and clearly only there for the fanservice.
    Isn't the whole game because of her and didn't she save the world in the end?

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    yeah she and fang are the most important characters of them all

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    That's the thing - Fang alone would've been enough. But let's throw in that little girl (who's actually seven hundred years old, so you can fantasize about her all you want) to fill that genki girl quota.

    And even if the intention was for Snow to be in denial about it, doesn't mean it was well executed - IMO, it really wasn't. But that's just my opinion.

    And I think we might be straying from the topic a little right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Adequate View Post
    often enough it's only "self defence" because they've busted into some military facility or something and violently resist efforts at apprehension
    or trying to stop an evil empire invading a small mining town or stop an evil corporation from collapsing a pillar to murder thousands of people or to stop an evil kingdom that's sending troops to smurf up an innocent town of rat people or to stop a corrupt religion that is trying to force them into marriage #justherothings #snow #snowfandom #ifsnowhadbeentheredomawouldneverhavebeenpoisoned
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    On Topic: Punch Snow in the face? Nah, I'd kick him in the stones so he couldn't reproduce. We don't need a bunch of little Snows running around.
    Snow would absolutely kick your ass dude. Snow would kick every single person on this forum's ass. Except he wouldn't because he doesn't exist.
    Fixed it for you.
    That's all very well and good but you're the one who started claiming you were going to "kick him in the stones" in the first place. I was just humouring your delusion of his existence. But oh no, now that your exotic revenge fantasy against him has soured you want out? Oh ho ho, no no no. Don't start a fire if you don't want to get burned. Get back into your imagination and take your well-deserved beating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynn View Post
    I like how Serah named her cat after her boyfriend in the sequel.
    Because she knows that Snow is a pussy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maybee View Post
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    I like how Serah named her cat after her boyfriend in the sequel.
    Because she knows that Snow is a pussy.
    For some reason, that reminded me of this.

    Snow's just this super cool guy, you know?



    Anywho, I know I've only scratched the surface of Final Fantasy, but so far I've got to say that the best protagonist is Lightning, with X-2 Yuna second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychotic View Post
    Get back into your imagination and take your well-deserved beating.
    Not without at least several months of buildup and me getting cheap victories over him leading to the payoff.

    But since he's 'nice' I have nothing to fear. Now take your bad Heidegger impersonation somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychotic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Adequate View Post
    often enough it's only "self defence" because they've busted into some military facility or something and violently resist efforts at apprehension
    or trying to stop an evil empire invading a small mining town or stop an evil corporation from collapsing a pillar to murder thousands of people or to stop an evil kingdom that's sending troops to smurf up an innocent town of rat people or to stop a corrupt religion that is trying to force them into marriage #justherothings #snow #snowfandom #ifsnowhadbeentheredomawouldneverhavebeenpoisoned
    I was actually with you until that last line, you will take back all slanders you level against Cyan, noblest of men.

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    I will because I didn't intend it as such and Cyan is indeed a god tier beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychotic View Post
    #ifsnowhadbeentheredomawouldneverhavebeenpoisoned
    Being completely honest and serious here- Snow reminds me of a good ( good as in a good person ) version of Seifer Almasy ? They both suffer from a ego that they both believe that they should or they are the hero and they both try and act like heroes. Though they both change in before thinking, both have awful leadership skills because they only think about how awesome they are, and don't really think and act seriously about any mission and just play hero. If Snow took part within the Doma battles after the poisoning- he would've leaped in without thinking and would've gotten even more people killed. The difference between Seifer and Snow is that Seifer actually learns from his lessons ( as seen by the ending with him fishing with Fu and Ru and smiling happy at Balamb Garden ) and Snow keeps on being and acting like he's a hero.

    As Fynn has already said- he doesn't stop and actually think about it. He just rushes in. Doma would of been completely destroyed and ruined.

    There's a reason why Seifer got heavily punished for his actions at Dollet because he doesn't stop and think about anything and just rushes in and just wants to fight Galbadian soldiers and play hero and take in all the glory.

    I hate Lightning, but I hate Snow even more so for being a massive doof.

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