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    gone erotic.

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    everything is wrapped in gray
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire View Post
    No, I don't, but if parents overexpose their children to this music, they'll become desensitized to it, and may start swearing. Would you want your children swearing up a storm? I wouldn't. That's why I would say that exposure to this music should be limited. And while I am against outright banning anything, I do believe in relegation.
    I'm thinking you missed my point. There's a point where the parents step in and say "hey, we don't use this kind of language because (reasons)." It's not the media's responsibility to parent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernChaosGod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire View Post
    No, I don't, but if parents overexpose their children to this music, they'll become desensitized to it, and may start swearing. Would you want your children swearing up a storm? I wouldn't. That's why I would say that exposure to this music should be limited. And while I am against outright banning anything, I do believe in relegation.
    I'm thinking you missed my point. There's a point where the parents step in and say "hey, we don't use this kind of language because (reasons)." It's not the media's responsibility to parent.
    To some extent, partially, I think it should be.
    Is that your final answer?

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    No one's died over swear words yet. It's largely irrelevant, really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    No one's died over swear words yet. It's largely irrelevant, really.
    If they could so many people would've died watching South Park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernChaosGod View Post
    It's not the media's responsibility to parent.
    To some extent, partially, I think it should be.
    This reminds me of an interview that Paul McCartney gave in the late sixties. They asked him if he'd taken LSD and he said "yes". After the interview he said "If you are worried about how this revelation is going to influence the youth of today then don't show it. Don't air this."

    What did they do? Over the front of every newspaper is how The Beatles were heathens and they are a horrendous example to the world's youth.

    My point: The media will never shoulder responsibility. They will do what they can to make money by telling lies and the truth... Whichever is the most controversial

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire View Post
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    No, I don't, but if parents overexpose their children to this music, they'll become desensitized to it, and may start swearing. Would you want your children swearing up a storm? I wouldn't. That's why I would say that exposure to this music should be limited. And while I am against outright banning anything, I do believe in relegation.
    I'm thinking you missed my point. There's a point where the parents step in and say "hey, we don't use this kind of language because (reasons)." It's not the media's responsibility to parent.
    To some extent, partially, I think it should be.
    You're just setting yourself up for disappointment.

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    I never said that we should eliminate explicit music or any other form of media completely. There's a time and place for everything. I just think that it should be more "obscure."
    Is that your final answer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire View Post
    I never said that we should eliminate explicit music or any other form of media completely. There's a time and place for everything. I just think that it should be more "obscure."
    Let's all be super-repressive and push explicit material to the borders of society where it can't be regulated or monitored. What a brilliant plan.

    While we're at it, why don't we body-shame and treat anything to do with the body and sexuality as somehow suspect? I'm sure that will help matters. That's what the British Victorians did, and that didn't distort the way they looked at sex at all.

    Let's just go the whole hog and pretend that naked bodies and sex din't exist. That'll make us all much happier and better adjusted.



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    Look, I'm just teasing you really, Supermillionaire. I know that's not what you're saying. But it is where it can lead to.

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    Then why did you tease me in the first place? And why would it lead to that point? I don't think it would lead to that point. I never said that we should eliminate explicit material completely. I just think that it should be relegated.

    To be honest, I actually think that they should allow AO-rated video games to be sold in stores. I never see any AO-rated games in stores. Like I've said before, I'm against outright banning anything, but I do believe in relegation.
    Is that your final answer?

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    I don't think there's any way to avoid the cycle, most child stars try to discard their kid-friendly image as fast as they can once they're old enough. It's their bodies and they can do what they want with them, it's parents job to make sure their kids are watching appropriate material their age.

    There's a decent number of young teens that watch porn and go on adult websites and hook up with older people (which is illegal), I think that's more of an issue than some raunchy music videos.

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    In some cases it's better for their careers. If Alyssa Milano didn't get away from her good girl image after Whose The Boss went off the air her career would've been dead in the water then and there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayen View Post
    In some cases it's better for their careers. If Alyssa Milano didn't get away from her good girl image after Whose The Boss went off the air her career would've been dead in the water then and there.

    How is that a good thing?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Night Fury View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayen View Post
    In some cases it's better for their careers. If Alyssa Milano didn't get away from her good girl image after Whose The Boss went off the air her career would've been dead in the water then and there.

    How is that a good thing?
    Never claimed it was. Though in Alyssa's case she didn't get into anything bad. She managed to stay clear of all the things child stars tend to let spiral out of control. Most she did was nude scenes which IMO is harmless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night Fury View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayen View Post
    In some cases it's better for their careers. If Alyssa Milano didn't get away from her good girl image after Whose The Boss went off the air her career would've been dead in the water then and there.

    How is that a good thing?
    Because then people can look at her more.

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