So....how do you feel about ROMS and emulators?

[Mirage]

You might not be, but the uploader and hoster might. They're just covering their own asses with that notice. They probably never cared about the downloaders other than for ad traffic, if that was a thing yet.

[Aerith's Knight]

If I can't legally buy either the console or the game from a first-party source, then an emulator is a non-problem in my eyes.

If the publisher doesn't give a smurf enough to sell it, why should you feel guilty for emulating it?.

[Raistlin]

when i was 12 or something equally young
and i had 56kb

the rom site i went to had a copy of ff6 (3 megabytes)

and it said specifically that if you do not own the game, you must delete this file within 24 hours or it is illegal

so every day i spent 2 hours downloading ff6 over and over again
and an hour playing it, if that

Ahahaha that is officially funnier than you falling for the rumor that if you leveled Aerith up to level 99 that she wouldn't die.

[Sephiroth]

I do not use them but I think it is funny how mis-informed people on twitch are to use emulators all the time with the reason "I have the original game" and so think downloading the game is okay because obviously most people using emulators do not make a copy of their own copy and download it instead, even if they have the game.

[Mirage]

I do not use them but I think it is funny how mis-informed people on twitch are to use emulators all the time with the reason "I have the original game" and so think downloading the game is okay because obviously most people using emulators do not make a copy of their own copy and download it instead, even if they have the game.

OK isn't the same as legal. I think it's OK to go 5 km/h over the speed limit (and so do millions of other people), but that doesn't mean it's legal. Other things I think are OK, even if they aren't legal include not fastening my seatbelt if I'm just going to drive 50 meters, and also drink alcohol while walking around downtown on a saturday night.

There are also things that are legal that not everyone thinks is OK. Not everyone thinks it's OK with concealed carry in some american states, for example. In some middle eastern countries, it's legal to cut people's hands off for stealing. Do you think that's OK just because it's legal?

when i was 12 or something equally young
and i had 56kb

the rom site i went to had a copy of ff6 (3 megabytes)

and it said specifically that if you do not own the game, you must delete this file within 24 hours or it is illegal

so every day i spent 2 hours downloading ff6 over and over again
and an hour playing it, if that

Ahahaha that is officially funnier than you falling for the rumor that if you leveled Aerith up to level 99 that she wouldn't die.

Now that I think about it, that doesn't really add up... 3 MB takes 8 minutes at 56k with 20% overhead.

[Sephiroth]

OK isn't the same as legal. I think it's OK to go 5 km/h over the speed limit (and so do millions of other people), but that doesn't mean it's legal. Other things I think are OK, even if they aren't legal include not fastening my seatbelt if I'm just going to drive 50 meters, and also drink alcohol while walking around downtown on a saturday night.

There are also things that are legal that not everyone thinks is OK. Not everyone thinks it's OK with concealed carry in some american states, for example. In some middle eastern countries, it's legal to cut people's hands off for stealing. Do you think that's OK just because it's legal?

I do not know what you want from me, I am not the one saying that it is okay. And yes, I think it is okay if it is legal. There would have to be some other examples with real morally questionable decisions (like your violence ones or the use of drugs) where I would say then that even if it is legal, it is not okay. In the emulator case I do not even say that it is okay, so that reply was completely unnecessary. And yes, those people I mentioned think the use of it is okay because it is legal, which it is not (neither okay, not legal). That is exactly what I wanted to say here.

[krissy]

i rarely ever got speeds better than 1 kb/s from that website and it jumped up and down all the time... 1.5 hours might be a more truthful estimate

eventually i just kept the rom until my harddrive died in the great virus invasion of '98

[Mirage]

OK isn't the same as legal. I think it's OK to go 5 km/h over the speed limit (and so do millions of other people), but that doesn't mean it's legal. Other things I think are OK, even if they aren't legal include not fastening my seatbelt if I'm just going to drive 50 meters, and also drink alcohol while walking around downtown on a saturday night.

There are also things that are legal that not everyone thinks is OK. Not everyone thinks it's OK with concealed carry in some american states, for example. In some middle eastern countries, it's legal to cut people's hands off for stealing. Do you think that's OK just because it's legal?

I do not know what you want from me, I am not the one saying that it is okay. And yes, I think it is okay if it is legal. There would have to be some other examples with real morally questionable decisions (like your violence ones or the use of drugs) where I would say then that even if it is legal, it is not okay. In the emulator case I do not even say that it is okay, so that reply was completely unnecessary. And yes, those people I mentioned think the use of it is okay because it is legal, which it is not (neither okay, not legal). That is exactly what I wanted to say here.

Do they specifically say it's legal because they own the game?

You've already agreed that the morality of actions are independent of the legality. Why is this different when it comes to copyright law?

I never said you thought it was ok.

[Sephex]

[Ayen]

Never before in my life have I seen a single image so accurately describe a situation.