View Poll Results: Who would you remove?

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  • Cloud

    1 3.70%
  • Tifa

    1 3.70%
  • Aeris/Aerith

    2 7.41%
  • Barret

    0 0%
  • Red XIII

    0 0%
  • Cait Sith

    12 44.44%
  • Cid

    1 3.70%
  • Vincent

    3 11.11%
  • Yuffie

    3 11.11%
  • Sephiroth

    4 14.81%
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    The story is just fine as it is with a couple minor issues.

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    Fine doesn't mean it can't be better
    everything is wrapped in gray
    i'm focusing on your image
    can you hear me in the void?

  3. #18

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    Cid because I hate him, well not hate, just find the way that he treats his future wife, by belittling her, extremely uncomfortable.

    Sephiroth would be good for a removal was well, as he's just 2 edgy 2 Shadow the Hedgehog with guns.

    edit- calm Cid the smurf down, and remove Sephiroth.

  4. #19

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    I'm pretty sue Sephiroth not only predates Shadow existing, let alone Shadow w/guns, but he's a pretty standard rival/shounen villain. Not much edgy about him at all.

    Unless you think the first FF villain with character depth and development is too edgy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Formalhaut View Post
    Red XIII gave us the Cosmo Canyon plot and is therefore saved for his admitted lack of meaningful development after Cosmo Canyon.
    Outside of the music, I actually consider Red XIII's diversion in Cosmo Canyon to be a waste of time. Technically Barret could have been the link there with a minor rewrite, so Red XIII really doesn't serve a purpose.

    Quote Originally Posted by Forsaken Lover View Post
    Unless you think the first FF villain with character depth and development is too edgy.
    Xande and Golbez would like a word with you.

  6. #21

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    Ah yes Gol-"I was mind controlled the whole time!"-bez. That is some real depth.

    Who was he before the mind control? What was he like? Who knows!

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    Either Aerith or Sephiroth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forsaken Lover View Post
    Ah yes Gol-"I was mind controlled the whole time!"-bez. That is some real depth.

    Who was he before the mind control? What was he like? Who knows!
    A pretty nice guy who wants to feel connected to his father's people and was willing to undertake a suicide mission into the the enemy stronghold to put a stop to him as a small token of redeeming his past sins. Someone who realizes that said sins will likely not be forgiven evev if he does save the world. He also did care about Cecil seeing how Zemus' mind control always broke whenever Golbez actually had a chance to finish Cecil off.

    In hindsight, Sephy's backstory does little more for him than the backstories for Kefka and Xande, it simply explains why he is evil. It never comes back into play as character development after it's revealed; because all three are irredeemably evil after they "broke". His backstory doesn't serve as an actual source for good character development like say... Albedo, whose backstory shows why he is warped, but also serves as a moral anchor for his character to actually grow throughout the story, instead of serving as just his Freudian Excuse like the three I mentioned. Sephy's backstory basically showed he was relatively normal if a bit superhuman before learning he was a guinea pig and then it didn't take much for him to turn on humanity after that, and he never looked back. You can infer that much from both Xande and Kefka's backstories.

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    If any of that first paragraph is in FF4, the original, I will be amazed Or are you just exaggerating two lines of text? I certainly don't remember any of that.

    As for Sephiroth vs. Kefka and the FF3 guy, Kefka's backstory is also some throwaway text of no consequence. Sephiroth's is one of the most memorable sequences in the game. It makes him sympathetic to many, and I can'tsay that I've ever found one person who felt sorry for Kefka.

  10. #25

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    Yeah, sure. Leave out the main villain. Why not even Cloud or delete the entire game.

    Cloud - main
    Sephiroth - main
    Aerith - main
    Tifa - semi-main
    Barret - no
    Yuffie - no, because Compilation
    Vincent - no, because Compilation
    Cid - no
    Yuffie - no
    Reeve - no, because Cait Sith's sacrifice plus Compilation
    Nanaki - yes

    But I would prefer to not cut out anyone.

    And this thread again showed that multiple people here do not even understand the story.
    Last edited by Sephiroth; 01-14-2016 at 02:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forsaken Lover View Post
    If any of that first paragraph is in FF4, the original, I will be amazed Or are you just exaggerating two lines of text? I certainly don't remember any of that.
    There's text, and there's context, and co-text. Golbez's actions say that. A game's story isn't conveyed through just its dialogue. Sreriously, it's all in the game if you pay attention.

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    So the We Are Actually Moonmen Twist was deeply foreshadowed and obvious?

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    Wolf didn't mention that. But yes, Golbez wants to connect with the Lunarians, because why else would he stay on the Moon with Fusoya?

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    Cait Sith. I just can't stand him.

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