*CENSORED*

[Skyblade]

I hate censorship. There's a critical scene in Xenosaga where the entire scene you are watching actually doesn't even make sense, because the "blood" has been removed. The character is directly interacting with the blood! Which is no longer there! It was so offensive.

On the other hand changing the visual design of a character isn't "censorship," it's a design choice, and probably a good one given how bad some of them originally are. I hate having a character show up on screen that makes me actively feel shame at playing a game in the first place.

Exactly. The Xenosaga example is actually something that decreases the original piece's artistic value. The other type just reduces the amount of jerkoff material

Hilariously enough, the unwillingness to state this head on just proves the "censorship" right.

Think about it. If the person complaining, who is only going to be watched by a few hundred people, and who only has their own personal and practically nonexistent reputation to protect, if that person is afraid to just come out and say "I like looking at scantily clad ladies while I play games", and has to hide behind the "censorship" nonsense, then clearly the localizers, with the reputation of their entire company, were right to hide those things as well. If an internet troll is unwilling to take that step, why should a multi-billion dollar company?

[Mirage]

I'd be fine if such games never left Japan in the first place, tbh!

[Skyblade]

I'd be fine if such games never left Japan in the first place, tbh!

But think of the unique culture you're missing the chance to experience! [/sarcasm]

[Mirage]

Well, it is certainly... unique.

[Spuuky]

Don't worry, the world is globally interconnected enough that you can still experience it even if they stopped shipping them out.

[Karifean]

For me the most interesting question in this regard is not just whether or not to have censored versions of games - IMO that's just changing your target audience - but whether or not it's a good idea to release the uncensored version in the same areas as well.

I get the objection that the simple fact that an uncensored (let's say 18+) version of the game exists will taint the image of the censored version as well. Especially since the VN world is chock full of 18+ games with amazing storylines. If you get attached to a galge and then find out there's a 'porn version' of it... it can really cause a disconnect. And when that happens, it kinda undermines the whole idea of having a censored alternative.

But I personally welcome having the choice.

[Vyk]

Agreed on them being poor design choices to begin with. And I get the impression it's not even a cultural thing. It's more that pervs have taken over in that culture. And Miyazaki has even gotten disheartened over it. So I know it's not just "oh all Japanese people are fine with gratuitous boobage for no reason, it's their culture". It may be becoming their culture, sadly. But its not everyone. And it's sad to define them that way

[Ayen]

I hate censorship. There's a critical scene in Xenosaga where the entire scene you are watching actually doesn't even make sense, because the "blood" has been removed. The character is directly interacting with the blood! Which is no longer there! It was so offensive.

On the other hand changing the visual design of a character isn't "censorship," it's a design choice, and probably a good one given how bad some of them originally are. I hate having a character show up on screen that makes me actively feel shame at playing a game in the first place.

Exactly. The Xenosaga example is actually something that decreases the original piece's artistic value. The other type just reduces the amount of jerkoff material

Hilariously enough, the unwillingness to state this head on just proves the "censorship" right.

Think about it. If the person complaining, who is only going to be watched by a few hundred people, and who only has their own personal and practically nonexistent reputation to protect, if that person is afraid to just come out and say "I like looking at scantily clad ladies while I play games", and has to hide behind the "censorship" nonsense, then clearly the localizers, with the reputation of their entire company, were right to hide those things as well. If an internet troll is unwilling to take that step, why should a multi-billion dollar company?

Pretty much. They don't even have to look far to find scantily clad ladies, games or not.

The older designs were trout, and designers changing their own stuff isn't censorship, and I question their understanding of how censorship works if they claim it to be.

[Madame Adequate]

i wanan smurf the animes