True beauty exists in things that last only for a moment.
Current Mood: And it's been a long December and there's reason to believe. Maybe this year will be better than the last. I can't remember all the times I tried to tell myself. To hold on to these moments as they pass...
The point is, they are all used. But do you really calculate their worth through accomplished - being used by villain? That is non-sense. They all defeated a big bad guy and saved the universe. That should be a big accomplishment not to be reduced by some random math formula and I cannot talk about the others but I would never "not mention" others just because they sometimes had to play the man villain's game. It totally depends on what situation we speak of.
Well if you're responsible for handing a madman the gun he uses to threaten people in the first place, surely you can understand why people are less thrilled with you when you take it away? The reason things got dicey in the first place is all your fault.
It's why I support Yuna. She never actually made the situation worse in any way. She only fixed it.
P.S.
IN terms of culpability though, Cloud should get more of a pass than the FFIX or FFXII party or whoever else. Dude literally could not help himself, he wasn't just manipulated.
We can then absolve Kain Highwind and Golbez's bulltrout if we're going to go that route. Still doesn't help that it was silly for Cloud's group to hand it back to him knowing he can't control himself around Sephy. I mean the whole party knew Cloud was a liability and still never questioned him. You would have thought the second they recovered it, they would have sent half the group away as far as they could with the item instead of just standing around waiting for Cloud to give them the okay. Cloud may be inspirational sometimes, but he's kind of a lousy decision maker.
As for Yuna... she did kind of slow the whole Pilgrimage down by getting involved with Seymour and Yevon politics. Which lead to Seymour getting more powerful and following them around like a love sick puppy, which resulted in the Ronso massacre, so she's not as accomplished as you would think. Doesn't help the Fayeth did most of the heavy lifting in X's story...
Last edited by Wolf Kanno; 02-03-2016 at 04:33 AM.
True beauty exists in things that last only for a moment.
Current Mood: And it's been a long December and there's reason to believe. Maybe this year will be better than the last. I can't remember all the times I tried to tell myself. To hold on to these moments as they pass...
Im gonna say lightning since she had all three games, especially the last.
Also her real name is best name. It's my last name.
Also I like Louis Vuitton bags.
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Well, according to FFTA2, Frimelda Lotice is one of the most accomplished heroes in all of Ivalice BEFORE she joins your clan. A supremely awesome blademaster who is literally the stuff of legends, someone people will die for the chance to fight. She only keeps on the awesomeness after joining your clan, and could theoretically take on a huge portion of the jobs in the game, merely adding to her already extensive total of people she's saved, helped out, or done missions for.
Lightning: Saved the world a bunch of times, poster-girl for FF now (sorry Tifa), Louis Vuitton model, got 3 bloody games
Cloud: Saved the world a bunch of times, poster-boy for FF, is also a model for a bunch of things (panasonic mobile phones, energy drinks), has a sequel and 92302829 spin-offs, has the most public recognition
Squall: Saved the world and got the girl, rolling in that SeeD dough (he's probably one of the richest FF chars at the age of 17 and is not a poor-ass like Cloud), most chic dressed FF guy
Yuna: Saved the world twice, got two games and some audio thingies, no one hates her, she seems to be the biggest celeb in Spira
Noctis: He's so damn popular and his game isn't even out yet.
im with Ayen
FF2 heroes didnt do nothing wrong iirc and they killed neo satan.
i guess Neo god too in SoR
I think it is funny that Lightning models for Louis Vitton. I guess Cloud is some guy playing a Super Saiyajin in Dragon Ball movies.
Might as well add Zidane's Coca-Cola advertisement in there as well.
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Gonna have to go with "Your Character" from FFXIV. Not only saving the world but doing their best (and to some degree succeeding, although a lot of work is yet to be done) to unite nations that were previously racist towards each other to the point of genocide. I'm sure we'll save the world on numerous other occasions.
As for accomplishments of non-MMO characters, hard to say really. I wouldn't say Cloud. Perhaps Lightning, though... she's the only character I can think of that has done so much on their own. Most characters rely on a large ensemble, but in Lightning's case in LR, she is the sole character you control, which I guess makes it a little more of an accomplishment? Maybe.
Let's face it, though, we're comparing people who saved one world with people who saved another world. In the end, they're all bloody fantastic.
Bow before the mighty Javoo!