Let's see what the fuss is about.

[Loony BoB]

Press X to win is very relevant in this game, yeah.

Is it just me or is everyone in the FFVII world completely impervious to falls from great heights!?

This goes for pretty much everyone in the entire FF series. I wonder if Desert Prison spoilerDyne really did die, or if he just got a bit sore.

[Pheesh]

Welp, I crossed the marsh on a chocobo, tried to enter the cave and then an error message popped up on my vita. I restarted the game cause I'd saved recently and my entire save game has just vanished from my memory card. Completely gone.

I tried rebuilding my Vita's database from safe mode and that still did nothing so I guess that's that...

I'm extremely annoyed and just don't have it in me to restart all of that again after having just done it. Maybe I'll see if Night Fury wants to get me back to that point in the game and I'll take it from there. But this is indeed a massive bummer

[Ayen]

Graphics are fine. I find they aged a lot better than VIII's graphics for the same reason Street Fighter II aged better than Mortal Kombat, lack of realism. My eyes needed a moment to adjust to picking up VIII again whereas VII? Not a problem. Has a real Saturday Morning Cartoon vibe to it.

The opening reactor is great and I love the scorpion boss fight and rigging the place to blow. Next reactor is kind of wash, rinse and repeat, though.

Everything you just said... I think the opposite

Welcome to Fynn's world. You'll receive the grand tour shortly.

Yeah I agree, I can't stand VII's graphics compared to the other games in the series and the controls are cluuuunky

Disagree on the controls. I never had a problem with them as a kid or an adult. You want clunky? Go play Broken Helix. Damn game nearly took my thumb off.

Welp, I crossed the marsh on a chocobo, tried to enter the cave and then an error message popped up on my vita. I restarted the game cause I'd saved recently and my entire save game has just vanished from my memory card. Completely gone.

I tried rebuilding my Vita's database from safe mode and that still did nothing so I guess that's that...

I'm extremely annoyed and just don't have it in me to restart all of that again after having just done it. Maybe I'll see if Night Fury wants to get me back to that point in the game and I'll take it from there. But this is indeed a massive bummer

Aww dude, I feel for you. I had the same thing happen to me with the original Final Fantasy and Chrono Trigger.

[Zanmato]

The bad? The combat is booooring. I usually just read the forum and mash attack for most battles and then cure in between battles if it's necessary. I've died once so far and that was to the Air Buster. I got a bit reckless with not curing or using potions and discovered I only had 1 phoenix down, got him the next time though. Also, the enemy designs are horrible. They make less sense than some of the new Pokemon designs. Humanoid guard things that stand in a frog squat? A house that sprouts limbs? I'll have some of whatever the designers were having.

Combat is one of the most important things to me in every RPG game and if FFVII is basically "Press X to win" game, there's no reason for me to play it.

I feel that FFVII is getting closer to being a truly overrated game, like GTA series, but it's just me...

[sharkythesharkdogg]

Welp, I crossed the marsh on a chocobo, tried to enter the cave and then an error message popped up on my vita. I restarted the game cause I'd saved recently and my entire save game has just vanished from my memory card. Completely gone.

I tried rebuilding my Vita's database from safe mode and that still did nothing so I guess that's that...

I'm extremely annoyed and just don't have it in me to restart all of that again after having just done it. Maybe I'll see if Night Fury wants to get me back to that point in the game and I'll take it from there. But this is indeed a massive bummer

Dang......at least it wasn't really far along? That still sucks.

[escobert]

Once I saved over my file on accident. I was over 100 hours

I actually love FFVII's graphics in the newer PC version. they gave everyone mouths and things like that and it's just so much funnier looking.

[Ayen]

The bad? The combat is booooring. I usually just read the forum and mash attack for most battles and then cure in between battles if it's necessary. I've died once so far and that was to the Air Buster. I got a bit reckless with not curing or using potions and discovered I only had 1 phoenix down, got him the next time though. Also, the enemy designs are horrible. They make less sense than some of the new Pokemon designs. Humanoid guard things that stand in a frog squat? A house that sprouts limbs? I'll have some of whatever the designers were having.

Combat is one of the most important things to me in every RPG game and if FFVII is basically "Press X to win" game, there's no reason for me to play it.

I feel that FFVII is getting closer to being a truly overrated game, like GTA series, but it's just me...

I took the time to grind before each major boss battle and got plenty of enjoyment out of it, and if the "Press X to win" thing is enough to ruin it for you there are a lot of FF entries you won't enjoy then.

Of course it's getting closer to being 'overrated'. Pretty much any game or series that is successful and becomes popular becomes 'overrated' on the internet. That's like a rule or something. I can't even take the word seriously anymore because of this. "This game was successful in X time? It's so overrated! Play this instead!"

Once I saved over my file on accident. I was over 100 hours

I actually love FFVII's graphics in the newer PC version. they gave everyone mouths and things like that and it's just so much funnier looking.

Sephiroth looks like a blow up doll in the PC version. It still kills me.

[Fynn]

The bad? The combat is booooring. I usually just read the forum and mash attack for most battles and then cure in between battles if it's necessary. I've died once so far and that was to the Air Buster. I got a bit reckless with not curing or using potions and discovered I only had 1 phoenix down, got him the next time though. Also, the enemy designs are horrible. They make less sense than some of the new Pokemon designs. Humanoid guard things that stand in a frog squat? A house that sprouts limbs? I'll have some of whatever the designers were having.

Combat is one of the most important things to me in every RPG game and if FFVII is basically "Press X to win" game, there's no reason for me to play it.

I feel that FFVII is getting closer to being a truly overrated game, like GTA series, but it's just me...

That's rich, coming from an FFX fan

[Pheesh]

Well in FFX you are basically forced to use the correct black magic on enemies to stand any chance of killing them and that mechanic is introduced very early on. That wasn't the case in FFVII in so far as I had played, you could literally just attack every enemy and kill them easily enough without any trouble. It is press X to win in the most literal sense of the term. That is the main difference I noticed between this game and other final fantasy games I'd played.

Catching a chocobo was the most in depth mechanic I had been faced with in an actual battle cause I had to throw an item at it and then make sure I didn't accidentally attack it.

[Formalhaut]

FFX has slightly harder combat, only by virtue of the puzzle battles. Though even they are easy. Lulu, use magic on flan! Tidus, attack that dingo! Wakka, hit that bird! That is most of the game.

[Ayen]

One has you press X, the other tells you what to do before you press X.

I don't see much of a difference, personally. Maybe if X didn't tell you how to beat them and left you to your own devices it'd be different, but they don't.

Did I just argue against my favorite game? Goddammit!

[Pheesh]

Anyway. Not a FFX thread guys I was merely remarking on my combat experience in Final Fantasy VII thus far. I honestly didn't exaggerate, I was browsing the forum while I mashed X on every battle except the boss ones.

[Fynn]

One has you press X, the other tells you what to do before you press X.

I don't see much of a difference, personally. Maybe if X didn't tell you how to beat them and left you to your own devices it'd be different, but they don't.

Did I just argue against my favorite game? Goddammit!

[Ayen]

The comparisons are fair because the game is being criticized for things that aren't exclusive to its entry. No one's trying to derail your thread.

Anyways, the enemies get harder the further into the game you get, as pretty much any game in existence. Least they did from my existence. I remember getting my ass kicked on Mt. Nibel on the playthrough I didn't grind because everyone and their mother kept insisting you didn't have to.

And when all else fails there are still the super bosses to give you your money's worth.

[Pheesh]

The comparisons are fair because the game is being criticized for things that aren't exclusive to its entry. No one's trying to derail your thread.

I get it, but you guys are talking about something different. Both have very simplistic combat mechanics, but I'm saying I was playing without looking at the screen and that I was unable to do that in Final Fantasy X.