BioWare
Bethesda
So I've played three Bethesda games and liked two of them, one of them a lot, and the third has been pretty meh so far. I played one BioWare game and it was excellent
So one has two strong likes and one meh and the second has one excellent. I don't know who to vote for
I think most of the Bethesda fans here (myself included) recognize that they have some serious flawsOriginally Posted by Ayen
Same here. The Skyrim and Fallout 4 threads have gotten way more posts than any Dragon Age thread. And it was the people on this site that caused me to try New Vegas (which I did not enjoy). But ME is very popular here and I think the ME 2 & 3 threads had a lot of posts iirc.
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This is BioWare all day. I mean, sure, they are different kettles of fish, but they're not so hard to compare. It isn't as if you're comparing Nintendo with the myriad Call of Duty developers.
BioWare is arguably my favourite company. With Dragon Age, you get fantastic character-building, together with an increasingly developed world (it gets fleshed out more and more with each instalment). In Inquisition in particular, you feel part of a world that stretches beyond where you can play, while not losing out on the rich 1-to-1 conversations. They do drop the ball slightly with the side-quests in Inquisition (half of them basically amount to reading letters), but every other quest is well-written and have lasting consequences.
I haven't played any Bethesda games, but from what Mr. Carny and others tell me, they probably aren't for me.
Baldur's Gate
Planescape: Torment
Icewind Dale
Yeah, Bioware all the way (though this is old Bioware, so it's different, haven't played any new Bioware games yet)
Bethesda gave us Morrowind which was nice but in made me nauseous
Nauseous?Baldur's Gate
Planescape: Torment
Icewind Dale
Yeah, Bioware all the way (though this is old Bioware, so it's different, haven't played any new Bioware games yet)
Bethesda gave us Morrowind which was nice but in made me nauseous
Anyway, you really should give new BioWare a go, Fynn. Games like Dragon Age and Mass Effect are fantastic (I prefer Dragon Age, personally).
Another thing, I like how inclusive BioWare is being in their more recent games. Inquisition gave us the first Trans person I've known in video games, and he was rather well-written as well. Add to that the affirmation of alternative sexualities, and compared to other developers, I like BioWare's commitment to diversity.
Once I have time for more games ourside my backlog, sure
There was something about the camera movement that just made me sick whenever I played it
And when will you give old Bioware a shot, eh?
And when will you give old Bioware a shot, eh?
Once I have time for more games outside my backlog, sure
BW are very very good at what they do, and have made several games that quite genuinely belong in the canon of "greatest in the genre", such as BG2, ME, KOToR, and DAO.
They've also made some games widely regarded as mediocre (Jade Empire) or flawed in some significant manner (DA2), even though I personally like those a great deal. Overall though, they're an extremely good dev company and their hit rate is fairly impressive.
Bethesda on the other hand made Morrowind, which means that unless you're pitting them against either Firaxis (For making SMAC) or Ion Storm (for Deus Ex), Bethesda wins the "Best developer" contest without question. Always. Against anyone. Not even Oblivion and Fallout 3 are enough to change that.
Yeah I guess that's my thing. Bioware has the consistently better games, like, I'm not knocking them at all. Stuff like BG2, KotOR, DA:O, etc. is very VERY good.
But... I rate Morrowind higher than all those games combined, because that's just how good Morrowind is. So I gotta rate Bethesda higher.
Can one game really make or break a developer? I don't mean to belittle Morrowind; I've never played it, but I know it is said to be amazing. But being known for one fantastically good game puts you in danger of being a one-trick pony, surely? I mean, Morrowind is 2002, right?
I suppose I value consistency, then.
Yeah, that comes down to personal preference. For me Morrowind is very important to me, like not just as one of my all-time favorite games but also for communities it introduced me to, friendships I made, that sort of thing. I don't think I can turn my back on that
Also Skyrim was super good.
Ah, forgive me, I did not think about the experience of playing a game, and of forging bonds and friendships through them.Yeah, that comes down to personal preference. For me Morrowind is very important to me, like not just as one of my all-time favorite games but also for communities it introduced me to, friendships I made, that sort of thing. I don't think I can turn my back on that
Also Skyrim was super good.
I can think of no better reason to like a game than the friendships gained through playing them!
You know, if you're going to compare the two anyway i think it's important to point out that there are no fewer than three developers using the Bioware name last i checked and only one of them is responsible for the games everyone seems to talk about being awesome sauce. And i don't even know how many people influential in those games are still there so that might not even be technically true anymore for all I know. Bioware are more of a brand these days, or at least EA wants it to be.
I still stand by my assertion though that anyone criticizing Bethesda's writing while praising Bioware's might as well be an alien to me. The Bioware games I've played were at best competently written versions of pretty mediocre stories and characters. So if I was going to give credit to one of them for their writing, at least Bethesda has the ability to write some decent lore and world build.
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