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    So we've had some interesting debates over the years and lord knows gaming has had more than a few controversies over the years. My question to you, the good folks of EoFF, is what do you consider to be the most controversial opinion in gaming?

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    Fez is a cool game and Phil Fish just handled publicity poorly.

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    I think one of the most controversial discussions around video games essentially boil down to the story.

    There's two basic camps. One thinks stories are important, the other compares video games to porn (this will be important later), where they expect there to be a story, but it shouldn't distract from the main attraction.

    And then things get messy.

    If we get a story, it should be simple, some would say. Anything more complex than an action flick is often deemed too convoluted to be enjoyable. Others want that kind of story with various twists and turns to keep your mind occuppied. The former camp will often tell the latter to watch a movie.

    And then there's the subject matter. Are video games a valid art form that can serve as a social commentary, or is that too PC, pandering to SJWs who just want to ruin every bit of indulgence that they have left.


    So the bottom line Im getting is that, probably the most controversial statement I can think of is that video games have become (or certain people want them to become) porn, in a more and less direct manner. On the one hand we have all the T&A being highlighted nowadays, more than ever before, while males get downright covered up, but there's also the other aspect. It's a self-indulgent fantasy that's supposed to bring you nothing more than escapism for straight boys (despite other genders in sexualities being just as involved in the medium).And so you get angry when people try to analyze it and certain online feminists point out how sexist it is

    So yeah. Video games are porn.

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    The gameplay can sometimes completely hinder a game's quality and ruin its story. Some games would be better off without gameplay.

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    The "Do video games cause people to become more violent" shtick has been going on since at least the mid 80s

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    So which is your favorite Mass Effect 3 ending?

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    I am beginning to infer the most controversial opinion in gaming is that creators should be allowed to create what they want.

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    Most controversial opinion in gaming? Women are seen as objects in video games and female gamers don't like this.

    You get several reactions here.

    Women are seen as objects:
    Position 1: Women aren't seen as objects, we just like boobs. Nothing wrong with boobs.
    Position 2: So? Women are there to look pretty, they aren't part of the plot, what does it matter.
    Position 3: yeah.. boobs.
    Position 4: Yes, they are always dressed up and there to look pretty and that's wrong.
    Position 5: What's the point of scantily clad women? It doesn't even make sense with everything else, she wouldn't go into battle wearing that.
    Position 6: I just want more objectification for all genders.
    Position 7: It's horrible, and sexist, and games need to be completely changed.
    Position dabldjajsdasd: there's so many opinions on this it's crazy.
    Female Gamers:
    Position 1: Girls don't play video games.
    Position 2: Yeah but cellphone games aren't real games.
    Position 3: Yeah, we ladies do exist in the gaming world.
    Position 4: Yah and we female gamers are better than guys.
    Position 5: Women should not compete with men. There's no contest.
    Position 6: I'm not a "female gamer" i'm just a gamer.
    Position gdjkahdskja: many more positions here too

    Female Gamers don't like this:
    Position 1: Girls are ruining game. SJW scum!
    Position 2: We ladies should have an opinion on gaming, we do participate.
    Position 3: Women are just trying to take over gaming. They just play farmville, leave gaming alone.
    Position 4: Men are supporting the patriarchy with gaming and it needs to change.
    Position blah blah: so many angles to this too.

    Etc etc. Now That's the most controversial gaming opinion of our time.

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    It is certainly a place a lot of discussion resides.

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    What Freya said

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    Yeah the real answer is the female representation in games. As for this site, FFVI vs. FFVII has gotten a lot of debate.

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    And according to another thread (and all of Reddit and tumblr), LGBT issues in games as well.

    Also, are video games art?

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    WAIT I THOUGHT OF ANOTHER ONE:

    Inverted or non-inverted Y-axis?

    (this always starts a gigantic war)

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