View Poll Results: Who should have perished instead?

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  • Cloud

    1 5.26%
  • Tifa

    3 15.79%
  • Barret

    4 21.05%
  • Red XIII

    2 10.53%
  • Cid

    1 5.26%
  • Cait Sith

    6 31.58%
  • Vincent

    1 5.26%
  • Yuffie

    1 5.26%
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Thread: Alternate FFVII Death

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi22 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
    Tifa being dead makes no sense at all.

    Cloud's confabulation is the direct result of meeting Tifa, because Tifa has Tifa's memories and his shame subconsciously caused the JENOVA-S-cells to awake so he read her memories and suppressed the part of himself that knew what was true to match Tifa's memories. "Doris" does not have Tifa's memories. It would have to be written different.

    The basic idea is not bad.
    If that is a cannon explanation for his mental instability then that is one of the finest things I've ever heard. Square really needed to never try and add or retcon things in FFVII.

    And the idea he was reading her mind and matching her memories, aside from being something it is never established Jenova can do, is absurd since a large part of her story is knowing Clouds memories don't match hers at all.
    Except that is how JENOVA eradicated the Cetra and got the form it was found in by Professor Gast. So yes, it was established. In the game. And in the Ultimania Omega. Sephiroth and JENOVA have some impressive abilities. Some of them include reading minds and memories and changing your form, language and speech. It is not absurd at all. You just do not know what confabulation is as confabulation is the reason why Cloud's memories and Tifa's are not equal. You take a a piece of information that is not true in a context and make it your truth by mixing it together with something else. Your brain does that to prevent itself from damage and you get convinced that is how it happened. The part of you that does know it cannot be gets pushed away down into your subconsciousness. Cloud suffers a case of fantasy-more inconsistent as not fully fleshed out-confabulation and that is caused in FFVII through him getting memories he read from Tifa. No one except Sephiroth can actually fully and consciously control JENOVA cells. But the others who have them subconsciously activate them. That is how the clone notice the presence through the echo of Sephiroth or how Cloud awoke his cells for confabulation. And Tifa does know the truth because Cloud's brain only took the part of the story that he needed and not exactly the truth. He took a truth from Tifa, ripped it out of its context and fused it with a truth of another context to make up his own story. Tifa stayed quiet because she was afraid. But she always knew.

    Quote Originally Posted by Midgar Mist View Post
    FYI: Cait Sith cannot perish, you would have to kill Reeve for that
    Eh ~ Cait Sith is an AI. He can perish.
    Last edited by Sephiroth; 03-21-2016 at 09:31 AM.

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