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    Adam Driver is nothing but intimidating I find (he was in the Marine Corps!), maybe I'm just used to him playing a nutcase in Girls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
    I really like Adam Driver as an actor! He was great in Midnight Special. He's just horribly miscast as Kylo Ren. Not even remotely intimidating. They literally could have cast anybody else.
    I don't think (unmasked) Kylo Ren is supposed to be intimidating.
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    I agree. In fact, I think it is supposed to be the opposite. So maybe it worked too well on Bubba.

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    That was my impression as well, Del.

    What's interesting about Kylo Ren is that he, like his grandfather whom he idolizes, is dealing with temptation. But where was Vader was tempted by darkness, Kylo Ren struggles with his temptation and draw to the light side. IT'S REALLY INTERESTING.

    But I think we're supposed to see him as this confused, scared kid (and boy does Adam Driver look young with no facial hair).
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    I love the way Adam Driver played Kylo Ren. He was the perfect mixture of petulant, tormented, scared, evil, and those things combined with his obvious power are what made him so scary. It's like an active volcano that is barely held in check.

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    Nah, not crazy. I simply have a different opinion.
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    My apologies, Phil. I've had a bit of a short fuse recently.

    I am of the opinion that they could have found a much better Kylo Ren. Even if he is supposed to be this tortured "I'm a baddie but I'm a bit of a goodie too" soul. It didn't come across at all for me. The petulance was there for all to see but he didn't portray the struggle with dark and light very well at all. The physical non-similarities between him and his parents bothered me at first but not so much any more.

    I still feel though that without the mask, he still should at least be a little intimidating and scary. I don't think he was either.

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    I'll need to see it again to verify, but I thought the internal struggle in Kylo Ren was pretty well done. For me, it was more of a 'trying too hard' to be bad than seeing a hint of him being good, other than in the scene on the bridge. There are still two more movies to flesh this out and the first one had a lot to accomplish so that's probably why it wasn't a main focus.

    One more thing, you really have to compare him to Darth Vader to understand him. Vader had the intimidating mask not just to be intimidating but also to keep him alive; Kylo has it just to be intimidating. In Empire Strikes Back and even more in Return of the Jedi you see that under the Vader mask he is a vulnerable and kindly looking old man. Adam Driver's face under the Kylo Ren mask is another homage to that. He's this guy trying so hard to be evil but underneath is just a funny looking young man.

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