Does Bravely Default count as a "Final Fantasy game"?
Obviously it's not one of the core numbered games but could it be counted as a spinoff in the vein of, say, the Tactics games? There are many similarities present, such as item names and so on.
What do you think? Is it a Final Fantasy game or something different?
I think its like... Xenogears and Xenosaga
I actually do think it's very Final Fantasy, and it is the most Final Fantasy game that has come out in years that isn't actually a Final Fantasy. Because it's not. I enjoy the series more than I've enjoyed any of the garbage FF titles that have come out recently.
It literally isn't. It's not even a spin-off like Crystal Chronicles.
Sure, I get it's almost identical in gameplay, but for whatever reason, SE chose not to include it in the Final Fantasy series. Therefore, it's not a Final Fantasy.
This isn't arguing semantics, this is fact.
Originally Posted by Fynn
While it's themes and mechanics borrow heavily from classic FF and the franchise is actually a spiritual sequel to Final Fantasy 4 Heroes of Light, I like to think of it an a different IP altogether if only because the series is pretty much a giant deconstruction of all the tropes FF has made popular over the years.
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Well, it is without question that it does not carry the FF title and at this point has become its own IP after spinning off from FF, but in my view, it's still very much a Final Fantasy experience and one that is very self-aware about it. Up until the point the game' story changes from the traditional FFI/FFIII/FFV storyline with restoring crystals, the subtitle has the initials "FF". After that one plot twist happens and the story starts to be deconstructive, the Fs disappear.
So yeah, while it's its own thing now, I will still personally treat is an FF, due to it being really deeply rooted in FF tradition. And of course, everyone has the right to disagree. It's just how I see things/
Bravey Default is as much a Final Fantasy game as FFXV is part of the FFXIII series of games. Both were originally intended to be part of a series and then that decision evolved into a separate game. Fact is, Final Fantasy is not part of the title. There is no Final Fantasy game in the series that I can think of off the top of my head that is a Final Fantasy game but does not have Final Fantasy in the title.
My understanding, Fynn, is that the "FF" actually stands for Flying Fairy, as the title of the game in Japan is Bravely Default: Flying Fairy.
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Yes, it does, but it was more like they picked the acronym first because of Final Fantasy AND THEN made it "Flying Fairy". On purpose
Perhaps. You could argue similar things about Lost Odyssey's Sid being another Cid.
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Them's the detailsAnd if you wanna consider Lost Odyssey a Final Fantasy - go right ahead! It's that easy
xD Personal categorisation is fine, and I'm happy to humour people with their decisions and I figure they do that for me on some things too. But if you're looking for a technically correct answer, BD is not an FF, nor is LO.
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Yeah going to say that it strongly does, and is even more of a Final Fantasy than FF 13 was.
We may as well say FFVII and FFVIII aren't Final Fantasys either with that argument.
Hmm... Not really. Bravely Default takes something that is unique to FF. Just because VII and VIII introduce new elements to the formula instead of that cliche that was there before, doesn't make them any less FF.
Isn't the reason you don't consider FFXIII an FF because of its setting? Can you explain why you don't see it as one?
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