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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    I believe you can CQC him, though it's more of the body throws than interrogation kind. I don't think there is a human boss in the game you can't counter their moves and use CQC on them.
    I think both Ocelot and the Pain are not CQC-able due to them being on an unreachable platform

    I watched a part of a speedrun today and the way this guy beats the Fear is amazing (fast forward to 20:00): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET6KJ9P46ac

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Manus View Post
    I personally think cutscenes like this still hold up today.
    I went back to watch the rest of those guys videos because I thought that Hind D joke was pretty good only to find them disappointing besides the codec editing
    Kefka's coming, look intimidating!
    Have a nice day!!

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    The Fury is also one hell of a boss. I like to beat him up with the knife!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete for President View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    I believe you can CQC him, though it's more of the body throws than interrogation kind. I don't think there is a human boss in the game you can't counter their moves and use CQC on them.
    I think both Ocelot and the Pain are not CQC-able due to them being on an unreachable platform

    I watched a part of a speedrun today and the way this guy beats the Fear is amazing (fast forward to 20:00): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET6KJ9P46ac
    What actually happened there? I understand he used the fake death pill then threw a stun grenade, but I can't understand wtf happened after that. How did he get the stamina kill so fast? Did the booby trap take him out?

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    Causing physical damage to The Fear while he's stunned hits his Stamina gauge. I've never seen it done that way - looks like the traps and CQC took him out. I instead just stand up and unload a round of the AK into him and that's enough to get a quick stamina kill too - and it's easier as you don't need to go to a specific place. He also stands up before I do, if you let the Fear speak for two more seconds he turns his back on you.

    MGS3 is the only game I've speed run and I actually don't even know or remember how to fight The Fear without doing this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychotic View Post
    Causing physical damage to The Fear while he's stunned hits his Stamina gauge. I've never seen it done that way - looks like the traps and CQC took him out. I instead just stand up and unload a round of the AK into him and that's enough to get a quick stamina kill too - and it's easier as you don't need to go to a specific place. He also stands up before I do, if you let the Fear speak for two more seconds he turns his back on you.

    MGS3 is the only game I've speed run and I actually don't even know or remember how to fight The Fear without doing this.
    Shoot at him until he dies.

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    Shoot at him until he dies.
    That's what I've been doing wrong all these years...


    there was a picture here

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    you're thinking of the cyberdemon


    speaking of cyberdemons, i am going to start metal gear revengance very soon and i hear it's a lot of fun even if it's not one of the main ones. is this true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Manus View Post
    Shoot at him until he dies.
    That's what I've been doing wrong all these years...
    I know. That Kojima is a tricky bastard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephex View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Psychotic View Post
    Causing physical damage to The Fear while he's stunned hits his Stamina gauge. I've never seen it done that way - looks like the traps and CQC took him out. I instead just stand up and unload a round of the AK into him and that's enough to get a quick stamina kill too - and it's easier as you don't need to go to a specific place. He also stands up before I do, if you let the Fear speak for two more seconds he turns his back on you.

    MGS3 is the only game I've speed run and I actually don't even know or remember how to fight The Fear without doing this.
    Shoot at him until he dies.

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    So I just beat the Shagohod and this is by far the least exciting actual Metal Gear fight imo. I never get the idea this thing is a real threat in the fight. I also don't get why the arena is so plain and boring. They had all these cool cutscenes of the Shagohod plowing through tanks and buildings but then when you fight him there's nothing there but a muddy field. Imo it would've been cooler to fight him in the Groznyj's main wing, making use of the terrain to get behind the Shagohod. Lost potential.

    I also never really liked the escorting part and I never bother trying stealth because Eva has the reflexes of a pancake.

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    As far as Shagohod not feeling like a threat, it is meant to be a nuclear equipped, highly mobile tank. That doesn't lend itself to being the best anti-infantry hardware out there.

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    Frankly REX was the only decent Metal Gear battle in the series. The first one was more of a puzzle, the second one went down fairly quickly with a grenade launcher, Ray was a bit too simple and the sheer volume of them called for it to be a more simple fight than it should. Shaghod is fairly easy and boring, the REX Vs RAY fight is pure fanservice and the less said about the PSP entries the better.

    Only REX really hit that nice balance of being simple in strategy to beat but you also had to be on your toes cause one wrong move would get you killed.

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    I thought the Metal Gear Zeke battle in Peace Walker was pretty fun but I might have been caught up with the song
    Kefka's coming, look intimidating!
    Have a nice day!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi22 View Post
    As far as Shagohod not feeling like a threat, it is meant to be a nuclear equipped, highly mobile tank. That doesn't lend itself to being the best anti-infantry hardware out there.
    I can see the logic but it still makes for an uninteresting boss fight imo. MGS can go over the top in many ways with great success, but the creativity is lacking in this fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    Frankly REX was the only decent Metal Gear battle in the series. The first one was more of a puzzle, the second one went down fairly quickly with a grenade launcher, Ray was a bit too simple and the sheer volume of them called for it to be a more simple fight than it should. Shaghod is fairly easy and boring, the REX Vs RAY fight is pure fanservice and the less said about the PSP entries the better.

    Only REX really hit that nice balance of being simple in strategy to beat but you also had to be on your toes cause one wrong move would get you killed.
    I agree REX is the best Metal Gear fight (although I haven't played any portable games or the old school titles).

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