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    I don't know if there typing has to do with something with the Third one.
    Maybe the 3rd is Psychic Dark?

    (have we had that yet?)
    Inkay, Malamar, and Hoopa Unbound are the only ones.

    I don't think they'd go Psychic-Dark, though. Currently, the other two Types have no interaction with each other. Psychic-Dark would be super-effective against Lunala, and normal effective against Solgaleo. Which just seems weird.

    I think it's more likely we'll hit a secondary type that doesn't interact with the other two. But, unfortunately, there is no Type that fits that mold. So I have no clue.

    maybe one that Supers both Lunala and Solgaleo?
    The only options there are Dark and Ghost, which are strong against the Psychic (and Ghost) Type that they share. Nothing hits both Ghost and Steel super effectively.

    Unless we get a new Type, but I doubt that.

    The one which best fits a "do nothing" interaction is Electric. Doesn't hit either Super-effectively, but it does resist Steel.

    i guess dark and ghost is cool. (or was before gen VI) but a unique type would be cooler

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    I don't know if there typing has to do with something with the Third one.
    Maybe the 3rd is Psychic Dark?

    (have we had that yet?)
    Inkay, Malamar, and Hoopa Unbound are the only ones.

    I don't think they'd go Psychic-Dark, though. Currently, the other two Types have no interaction with each other. Psychic-Dark would be super-effective against Lunala, and normal effective against Solgaleo. Which just seems weird.

    I think it's more likely we'll hit a secondary type that doesn't interact with the other two. But, unfortunately, there is no Type that fits that mold. So I have no clue.

    maybe one that Supers both Lunala and Solgaleo?
    The only options there are Dark and Ghost, which are strong against the Psychic (and Ghost) Type that they share. Nothing hits both Ghost and Steel super effectively.

    Unless we get a new Type, but I doubt that.

    The one which best fits a "do nothing" interaction is Electric. Doesn't hit either Super-effectively, but it does resist Steel.

    i guess dark and ghost is cool. (or was before gen VI) but a unique type would be cooler
    It would also be rather unfair, as both of those options would hit Lunala quad-effectively, while only being x2 effective against Solgaleo.

    Due to Psychic and Ghost sharing two of the same weaknesses (and those being the only weaknesses Ghost has), the only option for a third Type that doesn't unfairly benefit one of the Legendaries over the other is... Bug. Super Effective against Psychic, but resisted by both Steel and Ghost. So, neutral against both other legendaries. Plus, Bug resists Ghost, so a Bug/Psychic would take neutral damage from both the Steel STAB of Solgaleo and the Ghost STAB of Lunala.

    Although, that would give Lunala an unfair advantage, as its Ghost type does hit the Psychic side of Solgaleo Super Effectively.
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    I don't know if there typing has to do with something with the Third one.
    Maybe the 3rd is Psychic Dark?

    (have we had that yet?)
    Inkay, Malamar, and Hoopa Unbound are the only ones.

    I don't think they'd go Psychic-Dark, though. Currently, the other two Types have no interaction with each other. Psychic-Dark would be super-effective against Lunala, and normal effective against Solgaleo. Which just seems weird.

    I think it's more likely we'll hit a secondary type that doesn't interact with the other two. But, unfortunately, there is no Type that fits that mold. So I have no clue.

    maybe one that Supers both Lunala and Solgaleo?
    The only options there are Dark and Ghost, which are strong against the Psychic (and Ghost) Type that they share. Nothing hits both Ghost and Steel super effectively.

    Unless we get a new Type, but I doubt that.

    The one which best fits a "do nothing" interaction is Electric. Doesn't hit either Super-effectively, but it does resist Steel.

    i guess dark and ghost is cool. (or was before gen VI) but a unique type would be cooler
    It would also be rather unfair, as both of those options would hit Lunala quad-effectively, while only being x2 effective against Solgaleo.

    Due to Psychic and Ghost sharing two of the same weaknesses (and those being the only weaknesses Ghost has), the only option for a third Type that doesn't unfairly benefit one of the Legendaries over the other is... Bug. Super Effective against Psychic, but resisted by both Steel and Ghost. So, neutral against both other legendaries. Plus, Bug resists Ghost, so a Bug/Psychic would take neutral damage from both the Steel STAB of Solgaleo and the Ghost STAB of Lunala.

    Although, that would give Lunala an unfair advantage, as its Ghost type does hit the Psychic side of Solgaleo Super Effectively.

    We havent had a bug legendary iirc. i mean it has alot of weaknesses but most could be eliminated with a secondary type right?

    also has any other trio had 1 that beats the other 2?
    im unsure if water is good against steel/dragon, because then palkia would beat dialga

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    I don't know if there typing has to do with something with the Third one.
    Maybe the 3rd is Psychic Dark?

    (have we had that yet?)
    Inkay, Malamar, and Hoopa Unbound are the only ones.

    I don't think they'd go Psychic-Dark, though. Currently, the other two Types have no interaction with each other. Psychic-Dark would be super-effective against Lunala, and normal effective against Solgaleo. Which just seems weird.

    I think it's more likely we'll hit a secondary type that doesn't interact with the other two. But, unfortunately, there is no Type that fits that mold. So I have no clue.

    maybe one that Supers both Lunala and Solgaleo?
    The only options there are Dark and Ghost, which are strong against the Psychic (and Ghost) Type that they share. Nothing hits both Ghost and Steel super effectively.

    Unless we get a new Type, but I doubt that.

    The one which best fits a "do nothing" interaction is Electric. Doesn't hit either Super-effectively, but it does resist Steel.

    i guess dark and ghost is cool. (or was before gen VI) but a unique type would be cooler
    It would also be rather unfair, as both of those options would hit Lunala quad-effectively, while only being x2 effective against Solgaleo.

    Due to Psychic and Ghost sharing two of the same weaknesses (and those being the only weaknesses Ghost has), the only option for a third Type that doesn't unfairly benefit one of the Legendaries over the other is... Bug. Super Effective against Psychic, but resisted by both Steel and Ghost. So, neutral against both other legendaries. Plus, Bug resists Ghost, so a Bug/Psychic would take neutral damage from both the Steel STAB of Solgaleo and the Ghost STAB of Lunala.

    Although, that would give Lunala an unfair advantage, as its Ghost type does hit the Psychic side of Solgaleo Super Effectively.

    We havent had a bug legendary iirc. i mean it has alot of weaknesses but most could be eliminated with a secondary type right?
    Genesect, Bug/Steel.

    also has any other trio had 1 that beats the other 2?
    im unsure if water is good against steel/dragon, because then palkia would beat dialga
    Water is neutral against Steel, but resisted by Dragon. Water resists Steel, but takes neutral from Dragon.

    Dialga beats both Giratina and Palkia in matchups, because it has Dragon STAB, which both others are weak to, while Dialga resists it because of the Steel Type.



    There's also the Xerneas/Yveltal/Zygarde trio, where Xerneas hits Super Effective against both others.



    Kyogre clearly upstaged Groudon, though Rayquaza had no real interaction with the trio.



    There's no real evidence to develop a Type triangle, but I don't have much else to speculate from. I don't know the mythological inspiration for the legendaries (a bat and a lion?), or I'd go from that.

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    I don't know if there typing has to do with something with the Third one.
    Maybe the 3rd is Psychic Dark?

    (have we had that yet?)
    Inkay, Malamar, and Hoopa Unbound are the only ones.

    I don't think they'd go Psychic-Dark, though. Currently, the other two Types have no interaction with each other. Psychic-Dark would be super-effective against Lunala, and normal effective against Solgaleo. Which just seems weird.

    I think it's more likely we'll hit a secondary type that doesn't interact with the other two. But, unfortunately, there is no Type that fits that mold. So I have no clue.

    maybe one that Supers both Lunala and Solgaleo?
    The only options there are Dark and Ghost, which are strong against the Psychic (and Ghost) Type that they share. Nothing hits both Ghost and Steel super effectively.

    Unless we get a new Type, but I doubt that.

    The one which best fits a "do nothing" interaction is Electric. Doesn't hit either Super-effectively, but it does resist Steel.

    i guess dark and ghost is cool. (or was before gen VI) but a unique type would be cooler
    It would also be rather unfair, as both of those options would hit Lunala quad-effectively, while only being x2 effective against Solgaleo.

    Due to Psychic and Ghost sharing two of the same weaknesses (and those being the only weaknesses Ghost has), the only option for a third Type that doesn't unfairly benefit one of the Legendaries over the other is... Bug. Super Effective against Psychic, but resisted by both Steel and Ghost. So, neutral against both other legendaries. Plus, Bug resists Ghost, so a Bug/Psychic would take neutral damage from both the Steel STAB of Solgaleo and the Ghost STAB of Lunala.

    Although, that would give Lunala an unfair advantage, as its Ghost type does hit the Psychic side of Solgaleo Super Effectively.

    We havent had a bug legendary iirc. i mean it has alot of weaknesses but most could be eliminated with a secondary type right?
    Genesect, Bug/Steel.

    also has any other trio had 1 that beats the other 2?
    im unsure if water is good against steel/dragon, because then palkia would beat dialga
    Water is neutral against Steel, but resisted by Dragon. Water resists Steel, but takes neutral from Dragon.

    Dialga beats both Giratina and Palkia in matchups, because it has Dragon STAB, which both others are weak to, while Dialga resists it because of the Steel Type.



    There's also the Xerneas/Yveltal/Zygarde trio, where Xerneas hits Super Effective against both others.



    Kyogre clearly upstaged Groudon, though Rayquaza had no real interaction with the trio.



    There's no real evidence to develop a Type triangle, but I don't have much else to speculate from. I don't know the mythological inspiration for the legendaries (a bat and a lion?), or I'd go from that.

    Was zygarde known before XY realeased? maybe they will reveal it. i kinda hope they dont though.
    or hell they might be weird and make 4 legendaries instead of 3

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    As for the mythology that Solgaleo is based on...

    It appears to be alchemical.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pokemon.com
    Since ancient times, Solgaleo has been honored as an emissary of the sun. It is referred to with reverence as “the beast that devours the sun.” Solgaleo's body holds a vast amount of energy, and it shines with light when it's active. It has a flowing mane with a remarkable resemblance to the sun. Its signature move is Sunsteel Strike, an attack that charges at an opponent with the force of a meteor, disregarding the target’s Ability.

    Solgaleo’s Ability is Full Metal Body, a new Ability that no previous Pokémon has had. With the Full Metal Body Ability, a Pokémon’s stats will not be lowered by the effects of an opponent’s moves or Ability.
    "The lion that devours the sun" is an alchemical term and symbol referencing the purification of metals.

    It's also a decently important plot point in Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood.
    xerxian_alchemy_circle_by_icegoddess2010-d550pt8.jpg
    So I don't think it's a coincidence that it's Ability is "Full Metal Body".

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    Yeah he's not doing it for me

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    oh no. now you are making me think of Elms artwork, where he looks like he has uh yeah you know

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    The starters look great. There isn't one I actively dislike. Choosing between them is going to be hard.

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    Yeeah, he's doing nothing for me, either. I almost get a sorta douchey P3 Junpei vibe from him. Sycamore looks better, but with a name like Augustine Sycamore he sounds like a wealthy Bond villain. Or a snob. Or both! I like Prof. Juniper for breaking that glass ceiling! I also like Professor Elm for being adorably nerdy.



    Look at him!


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