Terra Tina Kefka Cefca

[Sephiroth]

Okay, dude. You're messing with a linguist.

Please, "dude". Do not play this card. You know I can do that as well. The mere fact that you even acknowledge that there are words which are written with a "ce" and pronounced hard pretty much confirms everything needed, it is not an "always" then. I have spoken to other English native speakers, they all found it very easy to understand.

[Fynn]

And yet you fail to bring up an example of a hard k in a word starting with ca for the second time.

Well?

(Also, "I spoke to native speakers" is a non-argument unless they are linguists because otherwise all you'll learn is folk linguistics which is not actually anything backed by science and research, just anecdotal data)

[Sephiroth]

And yet you fail to bring up an example of a hard k in a word starting with ca for the second time.

Well?

Why fail? It was never even asked for to write a word with ca. And there are plenty of them. You may not forget I have had this argument early so of course I thought about some word at thatn time. You should even know it because I partially mentioned this argument in one of my threads.

(Also, "I spoke to native speakers" is a non-argument unless they are linguists because otherwise all you'll learn is folk linguistics which is not actually anything backed by science and research, just anecdotal data)

How is that a "non-argument"? Even non-linguists have their own vocabulary. And the existence of some words even confirms that the possibility exists.

[Fynn]

What is it then? I'm sorry, there's so many threads on this forum that I can't keep up with who said what

[Sephiroth]

What is it then? I'm sorry, there's so many threads on this forum that I can't keep up with who said what

What is what? Please specify what you want to know.

[Fynn]

Give me an English-root word that starts with "ca" and "c" is pronounced [s]


And on that note, I'd just like to follow this up with a question to all the English-as-a-native-language-speakers here: how would you pronounce the word "Cefca" upon encountering it, without any reference to the fact that it's an alternate spelling of Kefka?

[Sephiroth]

Give me an English-root word that starts with "ca" and "c" is pronounced [s]


And on that note, I'd just like to follow this up with a question to all the English-as-a-native-language-speakers here: how would you pronounce the word "Cefca" upon encountering it, without any reference to the fact that it's an alternate spelling of Kefka?

I do not quite understand how you could assume I said something about "ca". I did not say "ca" is pronounced "sa", is said something against people who treat "c" like an automatic guarantee for an "s" sound, so I said exactly the opposite of what you understood, as you should have read from Cefca and Cain and Cayenne, which all have a "ka" katakana to mimic a "k" sound and are written with a "c" then in manuals and stuff.

[Night Fury]

Give me an English-root word that starts with "ca" and "c" is pronounced [s]


And on that note, I'd just like to follow this up with a question to all the English-as-a-native-language-speakers here: how would you pronounce the word "Cefca" upon encountering it, without any reference to the fact that it's an alternate spelling of Kefka?

Quiche