Quote Originally Posted by Del Murder View Post
For some reason I didn't think Flygon could survive Brave Bird but I'll try that out (I do have stone edge for it). The only way I deal with Talonflame is by absorbing the hit with Greninja's Focus Sash and taking it out with Scald. It annoys me because it is the same thing every time and it gets boring because it seems like 50% of the trainers run a Talonflame. If they also use a strong Dragon type (almost always) then I have to bring in Alakazam for Dazzling Gleam and now 2/3 of my set has been predetermined.

I need the ORAS Tutor for Iron Tail but yes that should handle most the Fairys.

I agree my defenses suck outside Umbreon and he's incomplete without Foul Play to actually kill stuff.
Flygon takes 30% from an Adamant, Choice Banded Talonflame's Brave Bird, which is the strongest move Talonflame can use on Flygon.

The only way Talonflame can survive a Stone Edge from Flygon is if Flygon has no Attack investment, and the Talonflame is running max HP and Defense with a +Defense Nature (which never happens).

And don't discount Toxic stall with Umbreon, if you can't get Foul Play.