I still can't wrap my head around what the smurf they've done to Xenoblade
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I still can't wrap my head around what the smurf they've done to Xenoblade
why
why why why why why why why
Wait, what? Everyone is mad at Nintendo for having a paid online service? Microsoft and Sony can do it, and tons of people constantly blow money Steam sales for games they will never have time to play, but Nintendo can't get a slice of that pie? That's just very odd to me. Granted, I'm not totally on board with that aspect, but it certainly doesn't shock me at all, and I have no idea why that of all things is upsetting people.
The press conference was odd, but whatever. It answered the questions I had about the console. I think the price is fair for what they are offering too. I am interested in Mario, Zelda, Splatoon, that one Square-Enix Octopus RPG, and midly interested in other things.
Looking forward to people saying Nintendo is finished again, though. That's always my favorite part. You know, that thing that people have been saying since the Genesis/Megadrive was released (at least in droves of angry, cynical gamers).
Not really sure if I am there on day one, but mainly because I don't feel like blowing all that money at once. If I can find a Gamestop or something that will let me put some money on it, and THEN I can pay it off some until the launch day, then I might go for it. Though I am sure all the preorders will be snatched up since you have to be in person to do that AND I doubt they do it that way anymore (it literally has been years since I have pre ordered anything).
Yeah, I'm mad when Sony and Microsoft do it as well. Steam manages without. They don't make you pay for online because they need it, they do it because they can get away with it. Nintendo are no different, and all it's doing is decreasing the value proposition on a console that is already £60-£80 too expensive.Originally Posted by Sephex
The controller costs are really offputting. It's all a bit pricey, especially in the UK. I remain intrigued by the concept but I think I'll be sitting back and waiting a year or so to see how it's playing out before I consider buying one.
Well, smurf. This place just got depressing as hell. Am I the only person who enjoyed what I saw? Fantastic trailers, teases for what will probably be great games, decent third party support, several pleasant surprises (new IP from Square + Dragon Quest + I Am Setsuna all point to good support from Square, for example, not to mention Konami actually doing something right with Bomberman).
I thought it was great, overall.
I guess I won't have anyone to talk to about the games here, though.
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I mean, I don't have anything against it and might pick it up at some point. I don't think it was a smurfup by any means. Heck, the Breath of the Wild trailer actually got me finally interested in the game.
I am just not okay, alright? I feel so betrayed by Monolith Soft for making the sequel to my favorite game of all time look like a porn game
I still don't get it. I see the same people crying and moaning over this that have had a paid subscription for MULTIPLE online MMORPGs for years. Also, the console is $50 over what the original Wii cost. It's been 11 years since that console was out. Hell, the Wii U cost $400 when it came out. I say $300 is fair. Not good, but fair.Yeah, I'm mad when Sony and Microsoft do it as well. Steam manages without. They don't make you pay for online because they need it, they do it because they can get away with it. Nintendo are no different, and all it's doing is decreasing the value proposition on a console that is already £60-£80 too expensive.
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While my original post isn't glowing, keep in mind that I do want one. I am just not committed to launch day because the way I want to reserve mine probably won't pan out. Also, I am used to these negative reactions towards Nintendo by this point. If this was any other company that makes game consoles conference hyping up their latest stuff, the backlash wouldn't be as bad. Nintendo always gets dumped on. Other companies only really get dumped on if they ROYALLY screw up (see the 2005 Sony E3 deal), but every major Nintendo announcement is treated like they just said they are launching the Virtual Boy again.Well, smurf. This place just got depressing as hell. Am I the only person who enjoyed what I saw? Fantastic trailers, teases for what will probably be great games, decent third party support, several pleasant surprises (new IP from Square + Dragon Quest + I Am Setsuna all point to good support from Square, for example, not to mention Konami actually doing something right with Bomberman).
I thought it was great, overall.
I guess I won't have anyone to talk to about the games here, though.
The $300 price is a little disappointing, but not much. For a long time I've been expecting $300, and hoping for $250, especially once they announced that they wouldn't be selling the system at a loss. But I mean, $250 is still the price of a New Nintendo 3DS. So $50 more than that for a significant upgrade is not bad.
My concern is, if going forward the Switch replaces the 3DS, then $300 is slightly more than I think is best for something each person would purchase.
Taking that trailer just on it's own, I honestly think it's one of the best trailers Nintendo has ever produced.
Fair enough.I am just not okay, alright? I feel so betrayed by Monolith Soft for making the sequel to my favorite game of all time look like a porn game
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I can understand why $300 is meh but not atrocious for American gamers but do keep in mind that in UK the cost will be £280 - the equivalent dollar cost is $340. Also while the pricing of the console itself isn't terrible, this bit is what is the most disappointing:
A Pro Controller, in the style of a traditional console controller, costs $69.99, additional Joy-Con controllers are $79.99 and a spare dock to use the Switch with another TV or monitor is $89.99.
An MMORPG is a different system. The MMO developers have running costs and they charge you in order to manage those running costs and make profit. You can kinda see the logic although also bear in mind that subscription MMOS have become less and less popular in recent years with the growth of not just F2P but broader ranging subscription services such as Netflix and Spotify.
A platform holder's online service is already bringing in revenue from multiple sources. You buy anything on their digital store, the platform holder takes a cut. Offer micro-transactions? They'll take a cut. It's also not unreasonable to offer some kind of premium service with perks. But just "play the game you bought with your buddies" functionality is a jerk thing to charge for.
I agree with the cost. It's not extortionate, you know, it costs less than a car for example. But it is not good. It is higher than I believe it should be to be an appealing prospect to the audience it wants to capture. I think this is because they're too attached to the 3DS - they don't want the Switch to be seen as a replacement. Whereas IMO that's exactly what they should be doing.
TIL all anime games I like look like porn games.I am just not okay, alright? I feel so betrayed by Monolith Soft for making the sequel to my favorite game of all time look like a porn game
Eh, it is what it is. I see stuff like this as an inevitability across all forms of media. It doesn't make it right or fair, but Nintendo is a business at the end of the day. I might not do the online thing, but I am a gamer who doesn't really use online functionality all that often.
No argument there! But I don't think "they're a business" is a statement that should protect them from criticism. I understand exactly why they're making this move, it's still a jerk move and they deserve to be called out on it
I will never pay a subscription for an online platform service again after dealing with PS+, so for me this announcement is basically saying: "you can never play multiplayer".
I think it's fair to say Nintendo is a business and so it's reasonable that their number one goal is to make money, but by the same token you must also say we're all consumers. As consumers, it's perfectly legitimate to not place the same value on a product or service that the business does and thus choose not to purchase it. Or rather, Nintendo owe us nothing and in turn we owe them nothing.No argument there! But I don't think "they're a business" is a statement that should protect them from criticism. I understand exactly why they're making this move, it's still a jerk move and they deserve to be called out on it
You mean that game everyone forgot about?Well, smurf. This place just got depressing as hell. Am I the only person who enjoyed what I saw? Fantastic trailers, teases for what will probably be great games, decent third party support, several pleasant surprises (new IP from Square + Dragon Quest + I Am Setsuna all point to good support from Square, for example, not to mention Konami actually doing something right with Bomberman).
I thought it was great, overall.
I guess I won't have anyone to talk to about the games here, though.
I did like some of the stuff I saw, but was disappointed with some of the trout. Online charging for one, but it's not a surprise for me considering the other two are doing it, 32GB which ain't trout, and the controller prices, but I'm cheap as hell.
I did like the following:
Breath of the Wild
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
Super Mario Odyssey
Super Bomberman R
Dragon Quest XI
Splatoon 2
Sonic Mania
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