Conan plays FFXV

[Yar]

Heaven forbid they don't start him at the beginning of the game. They should have started him at a high octane fight, right? :/

This is the first JRPG that he has played for his Clueless Gamer segment. I think that's a huge victory for the game by itself.


And... yeah, if you don't know what Clueless Gamer even means... well. Okee dokee.


Do you think he'd like it more if they forced him to play the beginning part of Final Fantasy VII, and the part where Cloud cross dresses? Would you hate the game if Conan called FFVII a weird troutty game?


If you find XV boring because of the things he said and the set pieces that he played through, that's your prerogative. Doesn't mean anybody else that is highly interested in this game and can take criticism would be daunted by Conan's opinion. Jesus, we saw Square Enix members laughing their asses off as he was shouting at them. And here we have people actually trying to throw trout at the wall about this game, and hoping that it sticks.


The problem everybody had with FFXIII was that it was too linear and didn't open up until around the 30 hour mark. Something that couldn't be more different with XV. Do you even understand ANYTHING that you're trying to talk about? Wowzers.

I have said this twice already. You can feel free to disregard his opinion if you want. My point still remains valid. They had the opportunity to showcase their exciting, action-packed game and showed us something that I think looks extremely tedious.


Yes. I know what Clueless Gamer means. Conan O’Brien does not play video games and the humor and fun of the situation is the ensuing awkwardness when he tries to play a game. I get it. I’ve been watching this man for over fifteen years now. Like I said, feel free to ignore his comments. They still chose to showcase parts of the game that make it look like a complete smurfing waste of time.


Sure, let’s go with the Final Fantasy VII example. It’s not one of my favorites, but it will do. If he were to play it, he certainly can’t be dropped off anywhere in the game, but the places he can just play around in certainly outnumber those that would be bad examples. Hell, even the beginning would be fine. At least there is some semblance of exposition and urgency that, even if it were to go over the head of someone like Conan O’Brien, at least could be explained in fewer than fifty words and could convey a sense of fun. I don't expect him to like it, but at least it would look enjoyable.


But this isn’t Final Fantasy VII.


And I’m not forming this opinion on just what Conan O’Brien said. I’m forming it on what I saw in this clip and what I’ve seen over the past ten years. It looks tedious. It looks boring. I am not easily impressed. I’m not twelve anymore.


I don’t know why you are trying so hard to argue that what was shown doesn't matter just because Conan O'Brien played it. Is your opinion of this game so threatened by what I saw in the clip and think about it that you need to convince both me and yourself that this is, in fact, going to be a good game? Sorry, that may be unfair postulation on my part.


And if you think that the only problem that everyone had with Final Fantasy XIII is that it is linear and takes thirty hours to “open up” (which it doesn’t), you must not have been paying attention to that game or do not understand my comment. Final Fantasy XIII takes a terrible story that contradicts itself throughout and tells it in such a clumsy manner. The game just drops you in the middle of the action and expects you to immediately understand what is going on. It provides no exposition. It provides no back story. It barely provides even a setting. Then it just expects you to care. It expects you to feel motivated. Don’t feel motivated? Well then read the encyclopedia!


No. That is TERRIBLE story telling. It expects you to feel motivated to do things and feel accomplishment for doing them, but never gives you reasons for either and fails at both. The game has linearity issues and railroads you through the story and Crystarium, but that is nothing in comparison to its terrible story. It is garbage.

I'm willing to bet it's 72 in game hours, not real-life hours. If it is, then this game is going to break all sorts of design records.

Also, silly "padding" gameplay moments that serve no purpose but to aide the narrative are pretty normal in FF games. My favorite is probably still feeding bed-ridden Cid fish as Celes.

Everything Conan complained about is pretty standard fair for JRPGs and FF as a whole. It's why lots of people loathe JRPGs, including Final Fantasy, and I'm not at all surprised Conan is one of them.

I, on the other hand, am even more excited than I was now.

Okay great. Seventy-two in game hours. That still sounds really smurfing tedious. What is that, four hours? I’m assuming this is an optional boss. Congratulations! Here’s your trophy with putting up with something for four hours! Do you feel accomplished?


Padding is padding. It gets old quick. At least with the Cid and Celes scene, it is intended to provoke an emotional reaction from the player. It also takes probably five minutes top and works to get her off that smurfing island. I personally don’t see that particular scene as padding. You may disagree and I can see it maybe argued as padding, but this isn’t the kind of shameless padding I’m talking about anyway. I’m talking about the bulltrout like so many of the scenarios from Final Fantasy XIII. Just so much wasted time that serves no purpose narratively whatsoever. And it looks like this game will be filled with the same.