Why the FFXV Bro-trip Might Not be Such a Bad Thing

[Fynn]

Crisis Core was good gameplay-wise. The story was insanely bad, but I heard Tabata wasn't actually a fan of FFVII, so I think maybe he was just lashing out there

[Mirage]

That's what i've heard too.

[Loony BoB]

I'm a fan of Crisis Core, but not Type-0. Apparently this goes against the natural flow of fans so *shrug* I should probably give Type-0 another go someday, once the world opened up I just kind of lost my groove.

[FinalxxSin]

On my commutes to work, I've started playing FFX-2 on my Vita which is obviously an all-female cast. I don't know what level of criticism this received on release but I've thoroughly enjoyed it so far! Dresspheres for the win!

Hypocrisy is pretty bad. X-2 doesn't bashed for having an all female playable cast nearly to the extent that FFXV does have for an all male cast.


On topic: While FFXV is bound to have its share of issues, I do hope everybody can find something to take away from it in a positive light. It's going to be a ride for me to say the least.

[Mirage]

It's only hypocrisy if you ignore the actual points

[Night Fury]

Hypocrisy is pretty bad. X-2 doesn't bashed for having an all female playable cast nearly to the extent that FFXV does have for an all male cast.


On topic: While FFXV is bound to have its share of issues, I do hope everybody can find something to take away from it in a positive light. It's going to be a ride for me to say the least.

It does. So much so that in the remaster they have made it so you can have dudes in the party.

FFX-2 was also a sequel featuring readily established characters (well, except Paine!) and not a main numbered title.

FFX-2 has a trio of main male characters, the Shinra staff are all male, the villain is male, two of the mini villains are male. So yes, while your main party is all women, the gender split for the whole game is very much 50/50. Probably actually works out that there are less women in it than dudes...

FFXV has....... 4 female characters that are part of the story.

[Fynn]

Five, I think. There's Luna, Cindy, Iris, Gentiana, and Aranea.

Honestly, though, there's not that many male characters either. Aside from Noctis's gang, there's Cor and like four named imperials. Of course, that's not counting people who die in Kingsglaive, but if we count those, then we also count Crowe.

It feels like the proportion is actually similar to that of most games in the series, but there's just not that many named characters overall and amid all this controversy the fact that there are few females is just made that much more prominent.

[Mirage]

The deal is of course that lots of males is common, while lots of females is very uncommon in these sorts of games. Cutting them entirely out of the playable party just accentuates the situation.

Then of course the misrepresentation of comparing a main game to a spinoff. I'm also dying to see whether FF15 has a hot spring scene with the four main dudes, by the way.

[Fynn]

Yeah, that's the worst thing. You know that X-2 wasn't an all-female party in order to push some feminist agenda - it was purely for fanseruvce.

[FinalxxSin]

It's only hypocrisy if you ignore the actual points

The point that a good number of younger people are quick to complain about things that wasn't harmful in the past nor present? I don't care if a cast is all female or male. The structure of a cast both main and support is irrelevant to me. What matters is execution.

not a main numbered title.

I fully disagree.