I'm not sure what to think of the Pained, to be honest. I genuinely believe that people would be informed they are the Pained if they had that label, because it would be so hard otherwise to prevent a Pained activating if they didn't know it themselves. I could be wrong, but that would make the game so much harder. Too hard, I think.

Still don't think Pumpkin is likely to be the Pained, assuming that Pained people have full knowledge of their status. She was the first to roleclaim, was under no real pressure, and only roleclaimed because Nutty was suspicious of her. If anything, I'd be more suspicious of someone who roleclaimed second, slipping in under the radar. I'm also slightly more inclined to believe Pumpkin because she fully roleclaimed. If she wanted to self-activate, she could just name her ability and give one or two vague characteristics of it. Instead, she said everything about it.

Of course, all of this she could've done as the Pained, knowing I would be less suspicious because she was open, honest, and it would be stupid to be third-party at the start of the game. But then all of that is Wine in Front of Me, and I could spend hours going back and forth "but that's what she wanted me to think". I've come to make at least a somewhat firm idea, and I don't think she's Pained. If she is, she is one hell of a player, and she doesn't give herself enough credit.

Of course, who might the Pained be? Difficulty is if you start naming candidates you're in danger of triggering them. I will say I suspect Mr. Carny but I have no real proof other than the fact he's been on the sidelines of discussion, but who knows. He very well might not be. And if he isn't activated, then let's not poke the bear. Also suspicious of Fynn, but again I have no strong basis.

At this point, we most likely have at least one Pained active, as the game has continued. Not sure if both are active. One thing I'm curious about is why there has been no night kills at all so far. Night One, sure, mass-protection. Night Two? What happened?